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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Clumsy Bob" data-source="post: 1395498" data-attributes="member: 6426">Is the spike chain too good? probably not but the feats that benefit from wielding one could be in question.We have a chain wielding barbarian in our party, currently 12th level with combat reflexes and improved trip.A typical encounter goes like this, NPC moves to attack Barb. NPC is tripped at the 5-10 range, Barb gets a free AoO from the trip. NPC has lost its attack for that round. NPC stands up from prone and takes another AoO.Barb takes a 5ft step back and full attacks, repeat and wash.Sure that is not always the case but you would be suprised how often.The problem I see that makes the spiked chain so good are the free attack from improved trip (you have attacked and tripped your opponent, why should you then get a free attack), and the free attack from standing up, can you not stand up while defending yourself?Any all the above is IMOBob</blockquote>