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<blockquote data-quote="TheFindus" data-source="post: 5763885" data-attributes="member: 75791"><p>I think that the split was inevitable.</p><p>If I remember correctly, I felt back then that the stuff WotC produced for 3e in the end was, well, unremarkable and symptomatic. What I mean is that the spell compendium, for example, basically pointed out that there was too much stuff out there, that had to be compiled somehow to even have an overview. It was hard to loose track. The one product that I really liked was The Book of Nine Swords. And the game design in that book pointed to 4E.</p><p>I did not feel like playing 3e anymore, I was done with it, for mechanical reasons that have been told about 3e a lot of times. And I know lots of players who felt the same way. Of course, this is only anecdotal evidence and you might feel a different way (which is ok), but I had the feeling that a lot of people around me were not only ready to stop playing 3e, but really liked what 4E was. That is why we are playing 4E now. 4E was the reason I still play DnD.</p><p>Other people I know switched to Warhammer instead, some even play MERP. But not 3e.</p><p>So instead of asking how many customers Paizo won by sticking to 3e, I would like to know how many customers WotC would eventually have lost while sticking to 3e, say till 2010. And I would guess (this is hard, though), not a lot less like they have lost now.</p><p></p><p>I also do not expect WotC to provide support for all former editions of DnD. In my opinion, the whole concept of "togetherness in DnD" is false. All the bad stuff that was said in many many edition war threads (which really ticked me off so much that I stopped going to forums for quite some time - I have never understood and liked edition wars.) made me realize that we, as gamers, are generally not group hugging. Instead, we are very picky about what kind of games and editions we play. And if we are civil, we can talk about the different aspects of the games in a polite way and agree to disagree. Which is ok for me.</p><p></p><p>Also: since Paizo seems to be another big player these days, why not except them to fully support 4E as well? Do they do that? I don't think so, at least not in a meaningful way (but I can be proven wrong, of course, the Paizo site is down at the moment. I know, however, ENWorld does support 4E). And I do not expect Paizo to, either. Why support the competition?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheFindus, post: 5763885, member: 75791"] I think that the split was inevitable. If I remember correctly, I felt back then that the stuff WotC produced for 3e in the end was, well, unremarkable and symptomatic. What I mean is that the spell compendium, for example, basically pointed out that there was too much stuff out there, that had to be compiled somehow to even have an overview. It was hard to loose track. The one product that I really liked was The Book of Nine Swords. And the game design in that book pointed to 4E. I did not feel like playing 3e anymore, I was done with it, for mechanical reasons that have been told about 3e a lot of times. And I know lots of players who felt the same way. Of course, this is only anecdotal evidence and you might feel a different way (which is ok), but I had the feeling that a lot of people around me were not only ready to stop playing 3e, but really liked what 4E was. That is why we are playing 4E now. 4E was the reason I still play DnD. Other people I know switched to Warhammer instead, some even play MERP. But not 3e. So instead of asking how many customers Paizo won by sticking to 3e, I would like to know how many customers WotC would eventually have lost while sticking to 3e, say till 2010. And I would guess (this is hard, though), not a lot less like they have lost now. I also do not expect WotC to provide support for all former editions of DnD. In my opinion, the whole concept of "togetherness in DnD" is false. All the bad stuff that was said in many many edition war threads (which really ticked me off so much that I stopped going to forums for quite some time - I have never understood and liked edition wars.) made me realize that we, as gamers, are generally not group hugging. Instead, we are very picky about what kind of games and editions we play. And if we are civil, we can talk about the different aspects of the games in a polite way and agree to disagree. Which is ok for me. Also: since Paizo seems to be another big player these days, why not except them to fully support 4E as well? Do they do that? I don't think so, at least not in a meaningful way (but I can be proven wrong, of course, the Paizo site is down at the moment. I know, however, ENWorld does support 4E). And I do not expect Paizo to, either. Why support the competition? [/QUOTE]
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