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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Salamandyr" data-source="post: 6833681" data-attributes="member: 40233">I'm to the point I'm ready to just let players assign themselves the scores they want in the stats they want, and then adjusting things to suit.  Every "official" stat generation method is going to result in the same thing; players are going to rank stats from most to least important, which means that unless the fighter is using 4d6 drop the lowest and rolled really (and improbably) or is assigning as rolled, then intelligence or charisma is going to be subpar.This tells me that players actually want higher stats than they are allowed to have.  So why not give it to them?  Does having a 14 Int  or 16 Cha fighter really make him a lot more powerful?</blockquote>