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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6414401" data-attributes="member: 2011">The person you were responding to was discussing the Tarrasque throwing things like rocks at foes. Moving a creature with a horn attack (i.e. melee attack with forced movement included) is very very different than picking up a rock and throwing it at that creature. When you post a video of a rhino tossing a rock at the warthog, then your Int 3 argument holds more water. As is, apples and oranges between the two (or in your terminology, a strawman since throwing a creature as part of a melee attack was not the other poster's claim).At the level of animal intelligence where creatures consistently throw objects at other creatures, one is more at the Ape level (Int 6) or Baboon (Int 4). No doubt a Tarrasque could throw things and has the physical tools to do so, it just wouldn't be SOP for such a creature since he has no fellow creatures of his own species to emulate. Most attacking creatures would not use thrown weapons against it (arrows, bolts, and spells are not thrown). For the vast majority of creatures it would ever face, any of them using thrown weapons would be so close that they would quickly die.Learning tends to be done via emulation with low intelligence creatures and sorry, the Tarrasque typically just doesn't have any role models for throwing things at foes.Grabbing foes? Sure. Lot's of Int 0 creatures grab things for food.Throwing an object if not trying to hit a target with the object? Possibly.Shoving a foe? Unlikely, but if it really wanted the foe away from it, sure.Agreed.It's fair game, but again, an Int 3 creature tends to not be the brightest bulb on the planet. To learn how to throw objects at targets, it would need some creature to show it how to do so first. Repeatedly. IMO. Any given DM can feel free to have a Tarrasque stand on its head too, but I wouldn't have it do such a trick either.Throwing an object at something is levels of intelligence above just randomly throwing something.With regard to Elephants have Int 3 in the book (someone else brought this up), that's just bad research. Elephants have one of the best non-human brains on the planet due to size, mass, and neuron complexity. Elephants should easily be Int 5 or 6.<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant_cognition" target="_blank">Elephant cognition</a></blockquote>

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