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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6418001" data-attributes="member: 2011">It is standing up when it is tall. I cannot help it if you are making stuff up. And yes, when people create stuff out of whole cloth, I can be less forgiving. I apologize.The 25 is invalid.X height of creature plus Y reach of creature plus Z jump of creature. All of these are based off of monster description and rules.50+15+13=78.The extend your arm calculation is irrelevant because that (and weapon length for non-reach weapons) is what people use when they discuss a creatures 5 foot (or 10 foot or 15 foot) reach.The word reach means "stretch out an arm in a specified direction in order to touch or grasp something". Where do you think the game designers got this term?You don't get to stretch the arm out twice, once with reach and once with this make believe 25 feet that you created.So yes, making the creature taller than the book says, and adding in an additional 25 feet goes a bit beyond houseruling.</blockquote>