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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 8500617" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>Your cost estimates are pretty off. Advertising isn’t as high. Most is through social media these days, which is relatively cheap. You could do a month long FB ad campaign for about a grand.</p><p></p><p>Art is too low. Unless you use stock art (of which the options are increasing every day, and there’s some really good stock art), you’re looking at a lot of money.</p><p></p><p>Let’s say you hire artists for all artwork, and want professional quality art you see in most big name products. You’re looking about $1500 just for the cover. A full color character or monster without background (around 1/4 page) will be around $150-$200. With background, add $100. A full page color interior is about a grand. You might get lucky and find someone to do the work at 25% less than I listed.</p><p></p><p>So go through the book and count how many illustrations there are, and do the math. It adds up pretty fast. For reference, the art budget I’m doing for Twilight Fables is going to run between $25,000 and $30,000, and I’m actually using some stock art in places. The art budget I did for the recently completed Chromatic Dungeons was $7500, and that was a black and white interior with stock art as well.</p><p></p><p>I do 99% of my own writing, which otherwise would be between 6 to 10 cents a word. CD was 190,000 words, 330 pages. Then you’ve got editing. I paid nearly a grand for initial editing, but had to end up hiring another editor for $1500 for it. (Hopefully done soon).</p><p></p><p>I think the best way to get a top quality professional looking RPG these days is to either already have a bunch of money, or to have a way to get it to a large audience (going viral like Coyote and Crow, or have an existing large audience like Morrus does or Matt Coville) that raises enough money to pay for all of the above.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 8500617, member: 15700"] Your cost estimates are pretty off. Advertising isn’t as high. Most is through social media these days, which is relatively cheap. You could do a month long FB ad campaign for about a grand. Art is too low. Unless you use stock art (of which the options are increasing every day, and there’s some really good stock art), you’re looking at a lot of money. Let’s say you hire artists for all artwork, and want professional quality art you see in most big name products. You’re looking about $1500 just for the cover. A full color character or monster without background (around 1/4 page) will be around $150-$200. With background, add $100. A full page color interior is about a grand. You might get lucky and find someone to do the work at 25% less than I listed. So go through the book and count how many illustrations there are, and do the math. It adds up pretty fast. For reference, the art budget I’m doing for Twilight Fables is going to run between $25,000 and $30,000, and I’m actually using some stock art in places. The art budget I did for the recently completed Chromatic Dungeons was $7500, and that was a black and white interior with stock art as well. I do 99% of my own writing, which otherwise would be between 6 to 10 cents a word. CD was 190,000 words, 330 pages. Then you’ve got editing. I paid nearly a grand for initial editing, but had to end up hiring another editor for $1500 for it. (Hopefully done soon). I think the best way to get a top quality professional looking RPG these days is to either already have a bunch of money, or to have a way to get it to a large audience (going viral like Coyote and Crow, or have an existing large audience like Morrus does or Matt Coville) that raises enough money to pay for all of the above. [/QUOTE]
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