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<blockquote data-quote="reanjr" data-source="post: 2040453" data-attributes="member: 20740"><p>Not true. It's readily apparent on a classroom level to anyone who cares to pay attention whether or not the kids are being well educated. This may be more difficult in earlier years, but certainly by the time you're reaching 10 year olds this is not hard to figure out. Making sure the system supports a free market is the most paramount goal. Parents will send their kids to the schools which do the best. It's that simple.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This happens in public schools. I don't see how vouchers would change anything, except offer the parents an alternative to a compulsory school system that is already cutting those costs.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Then the voucher needs to be 100%. If the taxes pay $10,000 for education per year, then the voucher should be $10,000. The problem you bring up isn't one with vouchers, it's a problem with any system that is done half-assed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Work? The system currently in place was based on that created by an East European (I do not recall the country at the moment) semi-totalitarian regime to keep their citizens in control. It was brought over by industry giants like Rockefeller, Carnegie, and Ford to create a population of non-independent thinkers molded for factory work. Read up. <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/external-search/104-7881381-9012717?tag=opera-20&index=blended&keyword=John+Taylor+Gatto" target="_blank">Gatto</a> is a good place to start. Also, if you can hunt them down, try to check out some of post WWII US military research studies on why the average American citizen was no longer competent enough to be in the military. They had to spend billions on re-education of soldiers. Many analysts laid the blame on this new generation of Americans coming out of the public education system.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Public schools can't be improved in any significant way. The base assumptions and designs are the problem, not the implementation. It needs to be redone from the ground up. Voting for anything other than complete reform is a waste of time.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As I stated above, you are absolutely incorrect on this assumption. Try to go find out the real history of public education. Don't allow big industry (supported by governments funded by such) to put thoughts in your head.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Incorrect again. The system is designed to exploit the American citizens to their fullest. Mandatory attendence was put into place by those who saw the potential for creating the Nuclear family that would sustain American industry.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="reanjr, post: 2040453, member: 20740"] Not true. It's readily apparent on a classroom level to anyone who cares to pay attention whether or not the kids are being well educated. This may be more difficult in earlier years, but certainly by the time you're reaching 10 year olds this is not hard to figure out. Making sure the system supports a free market is the most paramount goal. Parents will send their kids to the schools which do the best. It's that simple. This happens in public schools. I don't see how vouchers would change anything, except offer the parents an alternative to a compulsory school system that is already cutting those costs. Then the voucher needs to be 100%. If the taxes pay $10,000 for education per year, then the voucher should be $10,000. The problem you bring up isn't one with vouchers, it's a problem with any system that is done half-assed. Work? The system currently in place was based on that created by an East European (I do not recall the country at the moment) semi-totalitarian regime to keep their citizens in control. It was brought over by industry giants like Rockefeller, Carnegie, and Ford to create a population of non-independent thinkers molded for factory work. Read up. [URL=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/external-search/104-7881381-9012717?tag=opera-20&index=blended&keyword=John+Taylor+Gatto]Gatto[/URL] is a good place to start. Also, if you can hunt them down, try to check out some of post WWII US military research studies on why the average American citizen was no longer competent enough to be in the military. They had to spend billions on re-education of soldiers. Many analysts laid the blame on this new generation of Americans coming out of the public education system. Public schools can't be improved in any significant way. The base assumptions and designs are the problem, not the implementation. It needs to be redone from the ground up. Voting for anything other than complete reform is a waste of time. As I stated above, you are absolutely incorrect on this assumption. Try to go find out the real history of public education. Don't allow big industry (supported by governments funded by such) to put thoughts in your head. Incorrect again. The system is designed to exploit the American citizens to their fullest. Mandatory attendence was put into place by those who saw the potential for creating the Nuclear family that would sustain American industry. [/QUOTE]
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