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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lonely Tylenol" data-source="post: 1491856" data-attributes="member: 18549">So, what you're saying is, anyone claiming that it's okay to operate within the law shouldn't complain if they're caught if they break the law?  Um, okay.  I do agree that one should obey the law (with certain exceptions in the case of civil disobedience) and accept the penalty if one breaks the law.  I also agree that it's okay to do things that the law permits.  I think we can all agree on that, so let's try to stop dressing those statements up as arguments for or against this issue, because it's getting kind of silly.The issue seems to be that on the one hand there are those who think that there's some sort of "gentlemen's agreement" that says that only publishers should be able to get their hands on open content, and/or that those publishers should have to comb through the books themselves to get it, despite what the OGL states (it states the contrary).  On the other hand there are those who say that they're entitled to do whatever they're entitled to do with open content, and that by declaring something open content, a publisher is in fact inviting them to do so.  Then there's the middle, who say that they have a right to treat open content like open content, but they will leave a polite time delay so that the publisher can make a profit on its work before the open content is distributed.The middle ground looks to be the best.  It follows the rules to the letter, giving everyone access to the material they are legally entitled to.  It also provides the "gentlemen's" approach, by which the original publisher is given some respect and credit, as well as the chance to make the primary revenue from the OGC.Now then, I think this is probably going to turn out to be a moot argument, because I don't anticipate a free .pdf replacing people's book-coveting behaviour.  If you want the book, you'll buy it.  If you don't, you won't.  But in the second case you might get the .pdf.  In the first case you also might, but you'll have the book, too.Also, don't speed.  It's dangerous.  And you'll get a ticket.</blockquote>

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