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<blockquote data-quote="ThirdWizard" data-source="post: 2106722" data-attributes="member: 12037"><p>He knows sadly...</p><p>In the popular web-comic 8-bit theater, Black Mage has access to 1-9th level spells. However, he is loathe to cast an 8th or lower level spell. He's kind of like that. Except he revels in friendly fire. Now, if he were to be caught in his own <em>fireball </em>for instance, then we might be seeing a different color...</p><p></p><p>(I should point out that its all in fun, and the other players don't mind for some crazy reason. It might have something to do with the fact that half of them have not yet been the target of his miniacle machinations and so find it funny as well. But, they're all good sports. Even the barbarian. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> )</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I typically do agree with that sentement.</p><p></p><p>I havn't actually run the game yet, but I did look over some things, and the hobgoblins in question are using very good tactics and in all circumstances have the terrain advantages. I'm even going to use grease to try and make PCs slip down a slope into some fire pits. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> With the odds already stacked agasint them, I'm hesitant to go "all out."</p><p></p><p>Against web, assuming they make their save, they have to use a round to retrieve and light a torch. The next round they can use said torch to burn away the square they're in. The next round they can do it again, etc. Assuming the <em>web </em>cannot be circumnavigated, which in this case it could not be, someone in the back might have to actually move through six or more squares before being free. If it is the Favored Soul, that's seven rounds without healing. That's a long time. In this case, though, they'd be lucky they have a FS instead of a Cleric (good reflex saves).</p><p></p><p>All in all, if web were a 3rd level spell, I can still see reason to prepare it. Especially for PCs fighting most monsters. Centered on a monster, it has to make a DC 30 Str check to make it out in one round if it makes the Fort save. Not a whole lotta monsters can do that. I do like the sound of that modifier for size house rule, though. I might consider using that, though it would screw small characters.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ThirdWizard, post: 2106722, member: 12037"] He knows sadly... In the popular web-comic 8-bit theater, Black Mage has access to 1-9th level spells. However, he is loathe to cast an 8th or lower level spell. He's kind of like that. Except he revels in friendly fire. Now, if he were to be caught in his own [i]fireball [/i]for instance, then we might be seeing a different color... (I should point out that its all in fun, and the other players don't mind for some crazy reason. It might have something to do with the fact that half of them have not yet been the target of his miniacle machinations and so find it funny as well. But, they're all good sports. Even the barbarian. :) ) I typically do agree with that sentement. I havn't actually run the game yet, but I did look over some things, and the hobgoblins in question are using very good tactics and in all circumstances have the terrain advantages. I'm even going to use grease to try and make PCs slip down a slope into some fire pits. :) With the odds already stacked agasint them, I'm hesitant to go "all out." Against web, assuming they make their save, they have to use a round to retrieve and light a torch. The next round they can use said torch to burn away the square they're in. The next round they can do it again, etc. Assuming the [i]web [/i]cannot be circumnavigated, which in this case it could not be, someone in the back might have to actually move through six or more squares before being free. If it is the Favored Soul, that's seven rounds without healing. That's a long time. In this case, though, they'd be lucky they have a FS instead of a Cleric (good reflex saves). All in all, if web were a 3rd level spell, I can still see reason to prepare it. Especially for PCs fighting most monsters. Centered on a monster, it has to make a DC 30 Str check to make it out in one round if it makes the Fort save. Not a whole lotta monsters can do that. I do like the sound of that modifier for size house rule, though. I might consider using that, though it would screw small characters. [/QUOTE]
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