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<blockquote data-quote="Al'Kelhar" data-source="post: 2111702" data-attributes="member: 7884">House Rule territoryI house rule web in two ways to render it slightly less overpowering for a 2nd level spell.&nbsp; First, I give Large and larger creatures a bonus to their Strength checks to break through it, equivalent to their grapple bonus (I do the same for entangle with the added proviso that Huge or larger creatures are simply too large to be affected by the spell).&nbsp; Second, to bump up the power of the spider climb spell, it now comes with the added bonus that creatures subject to it gain a +4 bonus to their Reflex saving throw to avoid the web spell.&nbsp; If they fail their save, they have a +4 bonus to Escape Artist checks to escape the web.&nbsp; If they make their save or have broken loose they are not entangled and can move through the spell's area at normal speed.&nbsp; They can also enter the area of a web spell willingly without becoming entangled (essentially, they can move throughout the web as if they were a spider).&nbsp; Thus, one 2nd level spell effevtively counters another 2nd level spell.Cheers, Al'Kelhar</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Al'Kelhar, post: 2111702, member: 7884"] [b]House Rule territory[/b] I house rule [i]web[/i] in two ways to render it slightly less overpowering for a 2nd level spell. First, I give Large and larger creatures a bonus to their Strength checks to break through it, equivalent to their grapple bonus (I do the same for [i]entangle[/i] with the added proviso that Huge or larger creatures are simply too large to be affected by the spell). Second, to bump up the power of the [i]spider climb[/i] spell, it now comes with the added bonus that creatures subject to it gain a +4 bonus to their Reflex saving throw to avoid the [i]web[/i] spell. If they fail their save, they have a +4 bonus to Escape Artist checks to escape the [i]web[/i]. If they make their save or have broken loose they are not entangled and can move through the spell's area at normal speed. They can also enter the area of a [i]web[/i] spell willingly without becoming entangled (essentially, they can move throughout the [i]web[/i] as if they were a spider). Thus, one 2nd level spell effevtively counters another 2nd level spell. Cheers, Al'Kelhar [/QUOTE]

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