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<blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 2914188" data-attributes="member: 224"><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused&nbsp; &nbsp; :confused:"&nbsp; data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" />&nbsp; O.K!&nbsp;&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> You're looking at this from the wrong end, bud.You're trying to make a reasonable CR NPC monster, correct?&nbsp; So, the question isn't &quot;Why can't I do what I want?&quot;, becuase the answer to such a question is the (quite obvious): &quot;But you can do what you want.&nbsp; Go for it!&nbsp; You are the DM, after all...&quot;If you think a Incubus Sor 15 is an appropriate CR 16, then go ahead and do that.&nbsp; (Hint: It isn't in most games.)&nbsp; Balancing the CR of a critter is a tricky business.&nbsp; But as all of us have tried to point out, with the right choices, there are some wicked-powerful combos out there, easily up to the challenge tastes of your game.&nbsp; For an Incubus, you'll want to be looking for class abilities that depend on that amazing Cha score it's likely to have.That's a pretty strong assertion.&nbsp; Are you sure?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nail, post: 2914188, member: 224"] :confused: O.K! :D You're looking at this from the wrong end, bud. You're trying to make a reasonable CR NPC monster, correct? So, the question isn't [I]"Why can't I do what I want[/I]?", becuase the answer to such a question is the (quite obvious): [I]"But you [u]can[/u] do what you want. Go for it! You [U]are[/U] the DM, after all..."[/I] If you think a Incubus Sor 15 is an appropriate CR 16, then go ahead and do that. (Hint: It isn't in most games.) Balancing the CR of a critter is a tricky business. But as all of us have tried to point out, with the right choices, there are some wicked-powerful combos out there, easily up to the challenge tastes of your game. For an Incubus, you'll want to be looking for class abilities that depend on that amazing Cha score it's likely to have. That's a pretty strong assertion. Are you sure? [/QUOTE]

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