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<blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 2926028" data-attributes="member: 10177"><p>Your definitely on to some of the problems. We haven't bought the PH 2 yet, even without it the DM has been cool about changing feats and such (for an example he agreed that when I took the Epic Inititive feat that it was bull to have the old Improved Initiative become a waste, so he let me use it to get a different feat), and maybe when I let him know the PH would let me change forbidden schools he'll allow that too.</p><p></p><p>It looks like he may allow me to use my full caster level to overcome SR's, so if that happens that will make things significantly better for my caster. He got ticked off last night, he forgot my biggest power as a warlock was to turn/rebuke/command demons and devils like a cleric of the same level as my casting level. I guess he forgot because I use it so rarely, but anyways, he threw these nasty demons at us with 54 HD and I told him I was going to turn it. The shocked "HUH!" look on his face was priceless! Then when I rolled high enough to successfully turn (I couldn't rebuke or command due to level limits) he got really disgusted. Then the divine cleric/paladin boy remembered he could effect evil outsiders too (Warcraft Paladin Warrior ability), he turned too. Then I reminded him that he has that feat that allows him to outright destroy creatures he turns once per day.</p><p></p><p>Man! The DM's face was priceless! I felt his pain, though, since I DM a lot too. A totally kick butt encounter totally routed because he forgot one of the many powers we have. It was nice for us, though. It felt good to handily defeat something at Epic Level, finally!</p><p></p><p>Another frustration he had earlier in the night was a magically enchanted'trapped/warded door. He forgot about the 3rd dimension of reality when he designed it, so I easily went around by using my earthglide ability (remember, I am an Earth Elemental Savant as well, and now have the subtype/abilities). He was so disgusted once again.</p><p></p><p>I mean to be fair, I can understand his frustration, we have so many resources, so many abilities, it is hard as heck to take them all into account when he comes up with the encounters. Even a written list doesn't fix everything. The list is so long that you miss things, and that one thing you missed is what will turn the encounter into a cake walk. </p><p></p><p>I'd be willing to DM into low epic, but I sure wouldn't want to go beyond 30th, just too many headaches for it to be fun enough to keep DMing. I have seen "the look" in the DM's eyes several times. You could tell he just wanted to throw the books across the room and say, "The heck with this campaign! I'm sick of it!". He's sticking with it , though. Especially since he talked us into playing into the Epic levels. We would be perfectly happy playing other characters, and he knows that. Well, maybe the Healer/Paladin Warrior would like to keep going, but he would reluctantly agree to start over again.</p><p></p><p>Frankly, I just see this Epic game as more reasons why I'm glad I don't DM 3e anymore. Way too much stuff to keep track of. My DMing brain would burn out in short order.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Treebore, post: 2926028, member: 10177"] Your definitely on to some of the problems. We haven't bought the PH 2 yet, even without it the DM has been cool about changing feats and such (for an example he agreed that when I took the Epic Inititive feat that it was bull to have the old Improved Initiative become a waste, so he let me use it to get a different feat), and maybe when I let him know the PH would let me change forbidden schools he'll allow that too. It looks like he may allow me to use my full caster level to overcome SR's, so if that happens that will make things significantly better for my caster. He got ticked off last night, he forgot my biggest power as a warlock was to turn/rebuke/command demons and devils like a cleric of the same level as my casting level. I guess he forgot because I use it so rarely, but anyways, he threw these nasty demons at us with 54 HD and I told him I was going to turn it. The shocked "HUH!" look on his face was priceless! Then when I rolled high enough to successfully turn (I couldn't rebuke or command due to level limits) he got really disgusted. Then the divine cleric/paladin boy remembered he could effect evil outsiders too (Warcraft Paladin Warrior ability), he turned too. Then I reminded him that he has that feat that allows him to outright destroy creatures he turns once per day. Man! The DM's face was priceless! I felt his pain, though, since I DM a lot too. A totally kick butt encounter totally routed because he forgot one of the many powers we have. It was nice for us, though. It felt good to handily defeat something at Epic Level, finally! Another frustration he had earlier in the night was a magically enchanted'trapped/warded door. He forgot about the 3rd dimension of reality when he designed it, so I easily went around by using my earthglide ability (remember, I am an Earth Elemental Savant as well, and now have the subtype/abilities). He was so disgusted once again. I mean to be fair, I can understand his frustration, we have so many resources, so many abilities, it is hard as heck to take them all into account when he comes up with the encounters. Even a written list doesn't fix everything. The list is so long that you miss things, and that one thing you missed is what will turn the encounter into a cake walk. I'd be willing to DM into low epic, but I sure wouldn't want to go beyond 30th, just too many headaches for it to be fun enough to keep DMing. I have seen "the look" in the DM's eyes several times. You could tell he just wanted to throw the books across the room and say, "The heck with this campaign! I'm sick of it!". He's sticking with it , though. Especially since he talked us into playing into the Epic levels. We would be perfectly happy playing other characters, and he knows that. Well, maybe the Healer/Paladin Warrior would like to keep going, but he would reluctantly agree to start over again. Frankly, I just see this Epic game as more reasons why I'm glad I don't DM 3e anymore. Way too much stuff to keep track of. My DMing brain would burn out in short order. [/QUOTE]
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