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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6735076" data-attributes="member: 6669384">You can be terse and/or clear, and still have nobody listen to you.I was simply suggesting that part of Diplomacy is getting people to listen.&nbsp; It's getting people to think, at least for the moment, that what you're saying sounds like a good idea, that it makes sense.And, as you point out, leadership in peace time an be quite different from leadership in a time of war or emergency.&nbsp; Just as Perform can be singing, oratory, dance, a musical instrument, theatrics, etc, couldn't we see different flavors to Diplomacy and Intimidate?&nbsp; Diplomacy would be the fall back for non-military leadership, and Intimidate the fall back for emergency situations.Normal Intimidation includes some threat or duress, either implied or very specific.&nbsp; In an emergency/combat situation, it is the situation itself that provides the threat, and the Leader who is, at least implicitly, offering a way to lessen it.&nbsp; I know that they aren't a perfect fit.&nbsp; But they can be used as a starting point.&lt;EDIT&gt; Or maybe I hit on the answer and passed it by:&nbsp; Could leadership be an aspect of Perform: Oratory?&nbsp; The ability to give a rousing speech should not be underestimated.&nbsp; So how about Perform: Leadership?&nbsp; Literally, &quot;Acting Commander&quot;? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> &lt;/EDIT&gt;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 6735076, member: 6669384"] You can be terse and/or clear, and still have nobody listen to you. I was simply suggesting that part of Diplomacy is getting people to listen. It's getting people to think, at least for the moment, that what you're saying sounds like a good idea, that it makes sense. And, as you point out, leadership in peace time an be quite different from leadership in a time of war or emergency. Just as Perform can be singing, oratory, dance, a musical instrument, theatrics, etc, couldn't we see different flavors to Diplomacy and Intimidate? Diplomacy would be the fall back for non-military leadership, and Intimidate the fall back for emergency situations. Normal Intimidation includes some threat or duress, either implied or very specific. In an emergency/combat situation, it is the situation itself that provides the threat, and the Leader who is, at least implicitly, offering a way to lessen it. I know that they aren't a perfect fit. But they can be used as a starting point. <EDIT> Or maybe I hit on the answer and passed it by: Could leadership be an aspect of Perform: Oratory? The ability to give a rousing speech should not be underestimated. So how about Perform: Leadership? Literally, "Acting Commander"? :) </EDIT> [/QUOTE]

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