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Is there a difference between First Strike and Seize the Moment?
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<blockquote data-quote="NeoNick" data-source="post: 4408029" data-attributes="member: 72244"><p>Ok, thanks. Now I have a situation to further clarify surprise and CA. Please correct any errors in the below reasoning. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p> </p><p><u>PC surprise mobs</u></p><p>Suppose you have a surprise round in which the PC's surprise the monsters. Let's say that the PC rogue stealthed ahead and saw a couple of mobs in a room without them spotting him. </p><p> </p><p>a) The rogue attacks and as the mobs failed their perception rolls previously they are surprised and don't get to act in that round. Correct? </p><p> </p><p>b) The rogue can attack during this surpise round with CA. I think this is correct?</p><p> </p><p>c) Next round is the first ordinary round and initiative is rolled. The rogue beats the mobs initiative and gets to attack again with CA even if he's non-stealthed by now. Correct?</p><p> </p><p><u>Opposite example</u></p><p>If the mobs /in another example/ would surprise the PC's and jump on them in an ambush. </p><p>d) Only PC's making their Perception rolls gets to act in this surpise round. Correct?</p><p>e) Would mobs get CA during the surprise round? (It's fairly common in Keep of the Shadowfell to see a mob that gets an extra 1d6 damage when attacking with CA.)</p><p> </p><p>Help apreciated. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NeoNick, post: 4408029, member: 72244"] Ok, thanks. Now I have a situation to further clarify surprise and CA. Please correct any errors in the below reasoning. :) [U]PC surprise mobs[/U] Suppose you have a surprise round in which the PC's surprise the monsters. Let's say that the PC rogue stealthed ahead and saw a couple of mobs in a room without them spotting him. a) The rogue attacks and as the mobs failed their perception rolls previously they are surprised and don't get to act in that round. Correct? b) The rogue can attack during this surpise round with CA. I think this is correct? c) Next round is the first ordinary round and initiative is rolled. The rogue beats the mobs initiative and gets to attack again with CA even if he's non-stealthed by now. Correct? [U]Opposite example[/U] If the mobs /in another example/ would surprise the PC's and jump on them in an ambush. d) Only PC's making their Perception rolls gets to act in this surpise round. Correct? e) Would mobs get CA during the surprise round? (It's fairly common in Keep of the Shadowfell to see a mob that gets an extra 1d6 damage when attacking with CA.) Help apreciated. :) [/QUOTE]
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