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<blockquote data-quote="Fenris-77" data-source="post: 7983081" data-attributes="member: 6993955"><p>I was just continuing my own post mostly, where I talked about subclasses not stats. Why am I responsible for what someone else posted? If you wanted to rag on the stat layout why not quote that other post?</p><p></p><p>Goodness no, you don't need to stack all those in one basket. Expertise is the best way to get a solid roll in a non-core stat skill, like Perception or Insight, without a high stat, or pumping a skill like Stealth that (in this case) is linked to a secondary stat and that you want to be high. I want the benefit of decent CHA spread out over the CHA based skills, that's why it needs to be reasonably high.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Asked and answered above. I want the CHA bonus spread out over multiple skills and expertise doesn't do that.</p><p></p><p> Good gravy. I need to dispel some misconceptions I guess. None of the options in this thread have only Face type abilities, so why is this an issue? If this character was primarily missile support, for example, in a normal combat situation, then having the extra help from the back lines is a fine thing to have. I never suggested that two help actions should be your primary thing, only that is has some utility. I will also point out that in a lot of urban settings you run into choke points for combat pretty regularly, which means that useful actions from the back rank might be more useful than you seem to think. </p><p></p><p>I think it's also worth mentioning here that my first pick was the Swashbuckler, not the Mastermind. Again, I can't speak for other posters, and perhaps you could lay off conflating things you think I mean for what I've actually said. It makes this whole process easier. I do think the Mastermind would be pretty solid, but it's not my first choice.</p><p></p><p> I'd be very happy if they left that portion of the Soul Knife in. It's a fun class. I don't want to get to excited until I know it's staying though. If I was building this character right now, it would be my first choice for sure.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fenris-77, post: 7983081, member: 6993955"] I was just continuing my own post mostly, where I talked about subclasses not stats. Why am I responsible for what someone else posted? If you wanted to rag on the stat layout why not quote that other post? Goodness no, you don't need to stack all those in one basket. Expertise is the best way to get a solid roll in a non-core stat skill, like Perception or Insight, without a high stat, or pumping a skill like Stealth that (in this case) is linked to a secondary stat and that you want to be high. I want the benefit of decent CHA spread out over the CHA based skills, that's why it needs to be reasonably high. Asked and answered above. I want the CHA bonus spread out over multiple skills and expertise doesn't do that. Good gravy. I need to dispel some misconceptions I guess. None of the options in this thread have only Face type abilities, so why is this an issue? If this character was primarily missile support, for example, in a normal combat situation, then having the extra help from the back lines is a fine thing to have. I never suggested that two help actions should be your primary thing, only that is has some utility. I will also point out that in a lot of urban settings you run into choke points for combat pretty regularly, which means that useful actions from the back rank might be more useful than you seem to think. I think it's also worth mentioning here that my first pick was the Swashbuckler, not the Mastermind. Again, I can't speak for other posters, and perhaps you could lay off conflating things you think I mean for what I've actually said. It makes this whole process easier. I do think the Mastermind would be pretty solid, but it's not my first choice. I'd be very happy if they left that portion of the Soul Knife in. It's a fun class. I don't want to get to excited until I know it's staying though. If I was building this character right now, it would be my first choice for sure. [/QUOTE]
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