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Message: <blockquote data-quote="reanjr" data-source="post: 1755774" data-attributes="member: 20740">I think that's the key to your post.  With the older rules, players would act more reasonably and not treat the rules as tools to kill and become more powerful.  All these combat rules and tables and subsystems that all mesh in a universal way causes people to look at the system and get the distinct impression that D&D is a math game that is supposed to be calculated for maximum efficiency.  Ruins the feel of the game.If it were up to me, combat maneuvers other than attack and charge would be removed.  If the character wants to do something like that (trip, disarm, sunder), fine.  But it would be up to the DM to adjudicate it.One attack per round.  This abstraction gives leeway in how you describe attacks.  You can describe a great powerful attack as a series of blows, for instance, while the current system is basically telling you this is wrong.Universalize the skill system a little bit.  I'm not necessarily against class skills and cross-class skills, but I think the classes' skill sets could be widened a bit and given more skill points.  Certain skills should also be split up to avoid skill pumping a few really good skills.  I mean seriously, there is almost nothing in the MM that can hide well at all from a 5th level rogue or ranger who concentrates on those aspects of their career.Movement should be abstracted as well.  Movement should not cause attacks of opportunity, though expanding the other actions that do may be appropriate.Grappling should be redesigned from the ground up.  The current incarnation is a horrible beast.Turning should also be redesigned or dropped.Animal Companions, Special Mounts, and Familiars should not be treated as items.  It reinforces the idea of gathering equipment to make one's character more and more powerful.  They should neither get nor grant any special abilities other than ways to communicate with their master.  I just despise dealing with this real-in-game situation: Ranger's lion insults the Wizard.  Wizard casts shocking grasp on his toad familiar and throw it at the lion to deliver a touch spell.  I said the lion ate the toad in retaliation.  Player actually had the nerve to be pissed and complain that the toad had alot more hit points left and shouldn't have been able to be killed so easily.  This is endemic of the problems in the presentation of the system.Magical items should not be so easy and straigthforward to create.  The creation of a magical item should be a game opportunity.  It should not be a a way to expend some excess cash and XP to become more powerful.</blockquote>

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