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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Deset Gled" data-source="post: 9687627" data-attributes="member: 7808">So, for the record, I think that it's unlikely that Daggerheart will beat D&D.  However, I also find the belief that D&D is Too Big to Fail to be even more unlikely, largely because it has, in fact, failed before.That being said, to address this question:The answer is this:No RPG will beat D&D by being a better RPG.  Even Hasbro doesn't think of D&D as being an RPG, they think of it as a brand.  And what they want from that brand is a dedicated fanbase, a diversified and wide spread media base, and regular cash flow (not necessarily in that order).Daggerheart, as part of the Critical Role family, is the first RPG that I have seen in decades that I think actually has a chance of coming close to touching D&D.  But it's not because of the game.  It's because Critical Role has a dedicated fanbase, they have a successful TV show, they're coming out with a video game, and their family of products has a regular cash flow.  I look at the goals that D&D has had over the last few years and I see things like increasing their digital footprint, increasing awareness of the brand, increasing media presence with the movie, etc.  Critical Role essentially started by playing in those areas, and is now moving from that success into the RPG market space.If (and that's a big if) Daggerheart does end up surpassing D&D, it won't be because Daggerheart took control of the TTRPG market space by stealing players from D&D.  It will be because Daggerheart expanded and grew the TTRPG market space.  And it will be because the next time we see a contraction in the market (as has happened multiple times), Daggerheart might retain their fanbase (from Critical Role) while D&D doesn't.From that POV, Daggerheart isn't a threat to D&D at all.  For the time being, they're riding the wave of "a rising tide raises all ships", and we'll see who's left with what when the tide goes out again.  A much more real threat to D&D is if an "investor group" or "private equity" team like Alta Fox comes in and guts the brand like it's a Red Lobster.</blockquote>

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