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Is there a reason why the wealth curve in A5E is considerably lower than O5E?
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<blockquote data-quote="W'rkncacnter" data-source="post: 8845032" data-attributes="member: 7033455"><p>so, i did the math on that. i averaged out the prices of every magic item on each table accounting for probability. i did include cursed items, and i did put in the quiver of the hunt as 1150 gold pieces because neither table it's in lists if you get the 300 or 2000 gp version when you roll it, so i just took the average. the quiver shouldn't matter too much though, it's only a 1% chance in each list. anyway, final results:</p><p></p><p> </p><table style='width: 100%'><tr><td>Level</td><td>Magic Items in GP (tables with same percentages averaged)</td><td>Magic Items in GP (separate table odds)</td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: right">1</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">480.449</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">1091.952</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: right">2</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">480.449</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">1091.952</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: right">3</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">669.6074</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">1979.64</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: right">4</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">669.6074</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">1979.64</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: right">5</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">669.6074</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">1979.64</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: right">6</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">756.9561</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">2154.337</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: right">7</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">756.9561</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">2154.337</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: right">8</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">1053.893</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">3959.235</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: right">9</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">6457.22</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">20782.29</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: right">10</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">6457.22</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">20782.29</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: right">11</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">6457.22</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">20782.29</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: right">12</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">7187.568</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">25869.69</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: right">13</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">7726.52</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">28024.92</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: right">14</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">7726.52</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">28024.92</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: right">15</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">7726.52</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">28024.92</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: right">16</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">15111.01</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">60331.81</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: right">17</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">16714.96</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">63539.71</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: right">18</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">16714.96</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">63539.71</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: right">19</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">16714.96</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">63539.71</p> </td></tr><tr><td><p style="text-align: right">20</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">16714.96</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">63539.71</p> </td></tr><tr><td>Total</td><td><p style="text-align: right">137247.2</p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right">503172.7</p> </td></tr></table> <table style='width: 100%'><tr><td><p style="text-align: right"></p> </td><td><p style="text-align: right"></p> </td></tr></table><p>the middlemost column was calculated by averaging out the tables with the same odds and then multiplying them by said percentage before adding them to the other tables, while the rightmost column was calculated by simply multiplying each table by the listed percentage (so e.g. looking at level 1, the middle column would be a 60% chance to roll on either table 1 or 2 and a 35% chance to roll on any of tables 4, 5, or 6, while the rightmost column would be a 60% chance to roll on table 1, another 60% chance to roll on table 2, a 35% chance to roll on table 4, another 35% chance to roll on table 5, and another 35% chance to roll on table 6). when added to the gold already given out at each level, a level 20 character ends up with about 394847.16 gold using the middle column, and about 760772.7 gold using the rightmost. if you're asking why i did both calculations, it's because, uh, quite frankly, i don't know which method the game expects.</p><p>edit: rereading the section, it sounds like the game expects the middle column, so a level 20 character in a5e will be about half as wealthy as a level 20 character in o5e. very strange.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="W'rkncacnter, post: 8845032, member: 7033455"] so, i did the math on that. i averaged out the prices of every magic item on each table accounting for probability. i did include cursed items, and i did put in the quiver of the hunt as 1150 gold pieces because neither table it's in lists if you get the 300 or 2000 gp version when you roll it, so i just took the average. the quiver shouldn't matter too much though, it's only a 1% chance in each list. anyway, final results: [TABLE] [TR] [TD]Level[/TD] [TD]Magic Items in GP (tables with same percentages averaged)[/TD] [TD]Magic Items in GP (separate table odds)[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][RIGHT]1[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]480.449[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]1091.952[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][RIGHT]2[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]480.449[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]1091.952[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][RIGHT]3[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]669.6074[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]1979.64[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][RIGHT]4[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]669.6074[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]1979.64[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][RIGHT]5[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]669.6074[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]1979.64[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][RIGHT]6[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]756.9561[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]2154.337[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][RIGHT]7[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]756.9561[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]2154.337[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][RIGHT]8[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]1053.893[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]3959.235[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][RIGHT]9[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]6457.22[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]20782.29[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][RIGHT]10[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]6457.22[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]20782.29[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][RIGHT]11[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]6457.22[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]20782.29[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][RIGHT]12[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]7187.568[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]25869.69[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][RIGHT]13[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]7726.52[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]28024.92[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][RIGHT]14[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]7726.52[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]28024.92[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][RIGHT]15[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]7726.52[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]28024.92[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][RIGHT]16[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]15111.01[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]60331.81[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][RIGHT]17[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]16714.96[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]63539.71[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][RIGHT]18[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]16714.96[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]63539.71[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][RIGHT]19[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]16714.96[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]63539.71[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD][RIGHT]20[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]16714.96[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]63539.71[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD]Total[/TD] [TD][RIGHT]137247.2[/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT]503172.7[/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] [TABLE] [TR] [TD][RIGHT][/RIGHT][/TD] [TD][RIGHT][/RIGHT][/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] the middlemost column was calculated by averaging out the tables with the same odds and then multiplying them by said percentage before adding them to the other tables, while the rightmost column was calculated by simply multiplying each table by the listed percentage (so e.g. looking at level 1, the middle column would be a 60% chance to roll on either table 1 or 2 and a 35% chance to roll on any of tables 4, 5, or 6, while the rightmost column would be a 60% chance to roll on table 1, another 60% chance to roll on table 2, a 35% chance to roll on table 4, another 35% chance to roll on table 5, and another 35% chance to roll on table 6). when added to the gold already given out at each level, a level 20 character ends up with about 394847.16 gold using the middle column, and about 760772.7 gold using the rightmost. if you're asking why i did both calculations, it's because, uh, quite frankly, i don't know which method the game expects. edit: rereading the section, it sounds like the game expects the middle column, so a level 20 character in a5e will be about half as wealthy as a level 20 character in o5e. very strange. [/QUOTE]
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