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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ScorpiusRisk" data-source="post: 5051939" data-attributes="member: 41601">As a DM, I'm going to go ahead and say this is a problem for the DM. It's one thing, if the party can't stand the way a pc is built/played based solely on the words and actions of the player. It's another thing if it's due to the end result.I firmly believe that what may first appear to be failure in D&D should result in fun. I also believe in my ability as a DM to build and adjust encounters to keep things fun and engaging for sub optimal parties.My group has been together for a while (with some changes of course) and at times we've had average parties, fully brokenly powerful parties, and parties of greatly varying strengths. There's a place in D&D for all of them.I've never had a player intentionally try and ruin another players fun. It doesn't sound like that's what you're talking about anyway.</blockquote>