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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Balesir" data-source="post: 6768897" data-attributes="member: 27160">OK, but the reason we never used to play past 10th-12th level was that the system became pretty un-fun beyond that level. The character of the game changed to one of planned assassination and plotting, and several character classes became more-or-less irrelevant - plus the GM's brain started to overheat trying to deal with the extensive number of options that the characters (well, the spellcasters, anyway) had available. As a result nearly all the games we played before 4E simply fizzled out somewhere around 11th level.With 4E and (I think, never having run 13A all the way to Epic) 13th Age this limitation no longer applies. Our 4E game is currently at 26th level and still good fun (and managable) to play.</blockquote>