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<blockquote data-quote="kolpo" data-source="post: 4939297" data-attributes="member: 56870">I don't think that it is true that&nbsp; turn base games are completely outdated. The civilization4 and it's expansions are examples of turn based games that sold very well. The galactic civilization series also sold far more then they themself predicted, they certainly did break even.In the fantasy genre is the HOMM a serie that is doing well for a long time.&nbsp;But there is one thing I agree with, the multiplayer of turn based games is quite never popular. Even the very good game designers of firaxis(makers of civ4) where unable to make turn based multiplayer popular, this while they clearly spend a lot of resources in trying to make it good. All types of solutions&nbsp; have been tried, but none made turn based muliplayer really popular. &nbsp;D&amp;d4 is in my view far more based on turns and on the sequence people act then any other edition. If for example 2 players come after each other in the initiative order, can the first try to place the monster in a position that shall cause the second player to do more damage(like ensuring that the warlock is the closed to the monster, but not so close that he provoces opportunity attacks).&nbsp; In real time could the monster have already moved to the warlock, so he provoces attacks of oppoturnity before he uses his power. &nbsp;I think they can best release at least 2 D&amp;D based games. One turn based game that closely follows the D&amp;D4 rules and is focused on single player. Players are given a toolset that allows them to make there own missions(which shouldn't be that hard in a tileset based game). Maybe can there be also the option for a DM to guide a mission with a small group of players. Because this is a turn based game are NWN like worlds with more then 64 players out of question, nobody shall have the patience to wait 64 turns + all monster turns. &nbsp;Second an NWN like real time D&amp;D4 game. Made by a developer who is skilled enough to find a way to make a real time D&amp;D4 that still feels and plays like D&amp;D4 and that is still tactical(but I'm not sure if that is possible at all, this suggestion is for in case it is possible). This game would come with NWN like multiplayer and campaign/world building capabilities.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kolpo, post: 4939297, member: 56870"] I don't think that it is true that turn base games are completely outdated. The civilization4 and it's expansions are examples of turn based games that sold very well. The galactic civilization series also sold far more then they themself predicted, they certainly did break even.In the fantasy genre is the HOMM a serie that is doing well for a long time. But there is one thing I agree with, the multiplayer of turn based games is quite never popular. Even the very good game designers of firaxis(makers of civ4) where unable to make turn based multiplayer popular, this while they clearly spend a lot of resources in trying to make it good. All types of solutions have been tried, but none made turn based muliplayer really popular. D&d4 is in my view far more based on turns and on the sequence people act then any other edition. If for example 2 players come after each other in the initiative order, can the first try to place the monster in a position that shall cause the second player to do more damage(like ensuring that the warlock is the closed to the monster, but not so close that he provoces opportunity attacks). In real time could the monster have already moved to the warlock, so he provoces attacks of oppoturnity before he uses his power. I think they can best release at least 2 D&D based games. One turn based game that closely follows the D&D4 rules and is focused on single player. Players are given a toolset that allows them to make there own missions(which shouldn't be that hard in a tileset based game). Maybe can there be also the option for a DM to guide a mission with a small group of players. Because this is a turn based game are NWN like worlds with more then 64 players out of question, nobody shall have the patience to wait 64 turns + all monster turns. Second an NWN like real time D&D4 game. Made by a developer who is skilled enough to find a way to make a real time D&D4 that still feels and plays like D&D4 and that is still tactical(but I'm not sure if that is possible at all, this suggestion is for in case it is possible). This game would come with NWN like multiplayer and campaign/world building capabilities. [/QUOTE]

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