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<blockquote data-quote="keterys" data-source="post: 6260307" data-attributes="member: 43019">While they were called something else, fighters had the ability to either stop people cold from progressing people past them or getting free attacks in editions prior to 3e.4E certainly attempted to make sure that every character had a useful function and tried to promote D&amp;D has a team game, rather than as a game in which several people happened to be together with abilities that may or may not complement each other at all. Whether that's a problem you want solved probably decided a lot of things. I've seen people herald and complain about it, both.I'll note that Slayers quite capably serve those who want an older style fighter whose role is only to be tough and hit things hard, without having any other special abilities. Having options is a good thing.Personally, I think I'd have picked different roles. I also think I'd get lost trying to escape the baggage of the 4 core classes of dnd that are both too much (wizard, cleric) and too little (fighter) for people, so my tinkering would no doubt lead me to my own RPG instead of D&amp;D.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="keterys, post: 6260307, member: 43019"] While they were called something else, fighters had the ability to either stop people cold from progressing people past them or getting free attacks in editions prior to 3e. 4E certainly attempted to make sure that every character had a useful function and tried to promote D&D has a team game, rather than as a game in which several people happened to be together with abilities that may or may not complement each other at all. Whether that's a problem you want solved probably decided a lot of things. I've seen people herald and complain about it, both. I'll note that Slayers quite capably serve those who want an older style fighter whose role is only to be tough and hit things hard, without having any other special abilities. Having options is a good thing. Personally, I think I'd have picked different roles. I also think I'd get lost trying to escape the baggage of the 4 core classes of dnd that are both too much (wizard, cleric) and too little (fighter) for people, so my tinkering would no doubt lead me to my own RPG instead of D&D. [/QUOTE]

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