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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The_lone_gunman" data-source="post: 764119" data-attributes="member: 1143">The problem with this is that an anti-paladin is probably not a good description. Lets look at the qualities of a paladin:1) Devotion to Duty2) Honesty3) Protect the innocent4) Not fight "unfairly"5) Live by a code of Honor6) Chivilarous7) Defend the helplessThese are the things that make the paladin what he is. The fact that he must live by these things makes his life difficult. He can't sneak in the back, he has to meet evil on it's own turf. That is why he has more powers and abilities, his god helps him because that is the only way he can survive to do his duty. IMO paladins should be held to an even stricter code than most DM's seem to do and should be even more powerful, but that is another subject.Anyways, these virtues do not transfer well to evil. They are each diametricly opposed to what an "anti" paladin would be into. An evil guy with a "code of honor"? Does that really make sense? Yes you have honor among thieves and all that, but is it really honor? Evil is about taking the quick road, the easy way out, looking out only for one's self, unconcerned about others. Regardless of which evil you are (Neutral, lawful, or chaotic), these things all fit into it. The "anti" paladin, in my opinion, should have these qualities:1) Devotion to oneself over all other things2) Lying is second nature3) Exploit the innocent to one's own advantage4) fight to win, regardless of the cost5) the only code is the moment, whatever it takes to win6) contemptous of the weak, use women and others to fulfill beastial desires7) Exploit the helpless for futher gain.These qualities are why it makes more sense for it to be a "prestige" class. Paladins are powerfull because they cannot take the shortcuts, they are always in the maul of evil, taking them on blow for blow without a thought for their own safety. They need that extra power from day one, and because their deties are good, they trust in the heart of their champions from day one, until that trust gets twisted. An evil version, however, has always taken the easy road, and must prove to his dark gods that he is worthy of the power that they normally covet for themselves (like all evil things, that is their nature, to covet their power, not to give it out). Thus it takes more for the evil deities to part with power for their minions. The evil deities make them earn the power first, no trust will happen there.Just my 2cents. TLG</blockquote>

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