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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Desdichado" data-source="post: 2738798" data-attributes="member: 2205">Huh.  You ask if there's any love for d20 Modern and then post a post that makes me wonder if you have any!Here's my take on your specific questions/comments:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">d20 Modern is mostly compatible with 3.5.  Also mostly compatible with 3.0.  In fact, it was kinda the bridge between the two, in many ways, leaning more towards 3.5.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I know of no plans to revise d20 Modern.  I wouldn't want it revised; I like it the way it is.  Then again, I also think 3.5 was as much a downgrade in some areas as it was an improvement in others.  The bigger version number is not necessarily desirable.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I have no gripe with core classes.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I don't know what modern has to do with levelling.  You either like levelling, or you don't, or you're indifferent, but I don't see what setting has to do with it either way.  It's easy enough to get to what you want, though--the bolt-on pdf product "Grim and Gritty Hit Points" sounds like it would do more or less exactly what you want.  Honestly, though, I only prefer that for horror or grimngritty games--either modern, future, fantasy or whatever.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">We didn't get that at all.  Everyone took levels of what was interesting to them.  Sounds like a case of possibly blaming the game for problems with the players.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I love that "prestige" classes are not core classes.  Sounds like you just didn't like the generic classes, and were really trying to find ways around them.  Rest assured; that's just personal preference.  There are plenty of other people who'd love the generic classes as is, and don't even meddle much with advanced classes.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">It was just you.  You clearly aren't very fond of the idea of the generic classes.  But, since that's a core attribute of the d20 Modern system, it sounds like you really want to be playing some other game, frankly.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I would hate this.  There's a reason class skills belong to each class.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I would love this.  But, it's already been done, many times.  There are all kinds of products that have are d20  skill-based "magic" systems, and can be bolted on to the existing game.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I don't have a problem with the talent trees, although I wouldn't turn up my nose at more options either.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">I'm not a "gun nut" so I don't mind the more or less sameness to the different types of guns. </li> </ul>Actually, it sounds like most of your problems would be resolved if you used Grim Tales, frankly.</blockquote>

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