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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vigilance" data-source="post: 2745471" data-attributes="member: 4275">Danke. There is a subset of modern gamers (of all systems) that demand what I call "hyper realism". The reason I don't just say they demand "realism" is because none of the hyper real folks that I have encountered agree on what constitutes realism and realistic combat.Usually this involves putting together a string of effects linked to any firearm injury, including massive damage, a chance to be killed outright (even if the damage doesn't kill you) and then blood loss every round.If I wanted to add that level of hyper realism to my game I'd just have players make an attack roll, and if they hit, say "bang- he's dead", then I'd make my attack rolls and if I hit say "bang- you're dead".Seems like it would cut out the middleman.I encountered a whole slew of hyper realists when I released the first edition of Blood and Guts. I am not talking about the fine folks, many of them active duty in the military (including a very helpful PSYOP soldier from MacDill in Tampa) who pointed out factual errors large and small. I did a lot of research, plus had some innate knowledge from conversations with my stepfather but no one is perfect and frankly in some cases I confronted sources who disagreed with one another during research.These guys made the book better and helped make it a success.When I say I got a lot of comments from hyper realists I mean comments like "I can't tell if the damage for that TOW missile is incorrect because it doesn't say if its a TOW or a TOW II".I wish I could watch video of weapons in use and eyeball the amount of damage inflicted. Chuck</blockquote>

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