Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Is There Possibility of a PF1.5 or a 3.5 Revival? Whether Directly or Something With Similar 'Ethos'
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Willie the Duck" data-source="post: 9615555" data-attributes="member: 6799660"><p>It will differ for each person. To me personally, perhaps</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The same basic cleanup of AD&D 2e: everyone uses same xp table, all races can be all classes (no level limits), shift disparate subsystems to more unified mechanics (usually d20), etc.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Still retains the basic D&D structure of levels, races/species, and classes (heading off the question of 'so why not any other fantasy RPG with lots of character creation options and customizability, etc.).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Focus on character creation options and customization (possibly still being feats and PrCs, although see last bullet)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Predictable formulas (ex. slow, medium, and fast base attack progression; general formulas for a +1 AC magic item value; etc.).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Monsters built much like PCs, also with predictable formulas (creature type X gets Y of a feature per HD)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">At the same time, some (really any) major feature or features done genuinely differently than what they did for 3.0, 3.5, and PF1. This could range from all non-cleric/fighter/rogue/wizard classes being PrCs to full-spellcasters having level 0-6 spells instead of 1-9 to fighting types doing more damage and getting AoEs instead of iterative attacks to the default spellcasting system being spell-point based to honestly I don't know what.</li> </ul><p>The last one is even in doubt, as I can see a complete 'take four' version of D&D3.x where nothing profoundly huge and systemic was changed, and they just did new attempts on all the different things. </p><p></p><p>It's worth noting that there were plenty of 3.x games that weren't PF, if you consider the different D20 games. Many (like d20 <em>Star Wars</em> and <em>Traveller</em>) only qualify if you squint hard enough (but maybe one can see what an alternate 3.x would look like using their design choices), but others like <em>Radiance </em>are pretty blatantly different attempts at a D&D-like game using the same rough model.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Willie the Duck, post: 9615555, member: 6799660"] It will differ for each person. To me personally, perhaps [LIST] [*]The same basic cleanup of AD&D 2e: everyone uses same xp table, all races can be all classes (no level limits), shift disparate subsystems to more unified mechanics (usually d20), etc. [*]Still retains the basic D&D structure of levels, races/species, and classes (heading off the question of 'so why not any other fantasy RPG with lots of character creation options and customizability, etc.). [*]Focus on character creation options and customization (possibly still being feats and PrCs, although see last bullet) [*]Predictable formulas (ex. slow, medium, and fast base attack progression; general formulas for a +1 AC magic item value; etc.). [*]Monsters built much like PCs, also with predictable formulas (creature type X gets Y of a feature per HD) [*]At the same time, some (really any) major feature or features done genuinely differently than what they did for 3.0, 3.5, and PF1. This could range from all non-cleric/fighter/rogue/wizard classes being PrCs to full-spellcasters having level 0-6 spells instead of 1-9 to fighting types doing more damage and getting AoEs instead of iterative attacks to the default spellcasting system being spell-point based to honestly I don't know what. [/LIST] The last one is even in doubt, as I can see a complete 'take four' version of D&D3.x where nothing profoundly huge and systemic was changed, and they just did new attempts on all the different things. It's worth noting that there were plenty of 3.x games that weren't PF, if you consider the different D20 games. Many (like d20 [I]Star Wars[/I] and [I]Traveller[/I]) only qualify if you squint hard enough (but maybe one can see what an alternate 3.x would look like using their design choices), but others like [I]Radiance [/I]are pretty blatantly different attempts at a D&D-like game using the same rough model. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
Is There Possibility of a PF1.5 or a 3.5 Revival? Whether Directly or Something With Similar 'Ethos'
Top