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<blockquote data-quote="Staffan" data-source="post: 9618418" data-attributes="member: 907">I'd argue that SWSaga is more d20 Modern than D&amp;D. You have a small number of highly generic classes, most of which mechanically consist of Talents (selectable class abilities) and bonus feats, and you alternate between the two at each level. In addition, you are expected to multiclass to get the character you envision, and the more flavorful options are usually done as Advanced classes (similar to prestige classes). But yeah, it does have some 4e-isms:<ul>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Defenses instead of saves, with a level-based increase and a small fixed bonus based on class (so everyone would have e.g. Fortitude defense 10+level+Con bonus, and if you were a Soldier you'd get +2). And as a consequence, anything offensive is an &quot;attack&quot;. E.g. in a 5e with modern/futuristic weapons, a grenade would require a Dexterity save vs a fixed DC, but in Saga you'd use an attack roll against the target's Reflex defense.</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">Binary skills – you get a general bonus to all skills based on level, and if you're proficient you get a +5 (with the potential for +5 more for a feat).</li>
<li data-xf-list-type="ul">I think force powers refreshed with a fairly short rest period, essentially making them encounter powers.</li>
</ul>But other than Force powers, you generally didn't have AEDU-style powers, and there wasn't anything close to healing surges.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Staffan, post: 9618418, member: 907"] I'd argue that SWSaga is more d20 Modern than D&D. You have a small number of highly generic classes, most of which mechanically consist of Talents (selectable class abilities) and bonus feats, and you alternate between the two at each level. In addition, you are expected to multiclass to get the character you envision, and the more flavorful options are usually done as Advanced classes (similar to prestige classes). But yeah, it does have some 4e-isms: [LIST] [*]Defenses instead of saves, with a level-based increase and a small fixed bonus based on class (so everyone would have e.g. Fortitude defense 10+level+Con bonus, and if you were a Soldier you'd get +2). And as a consequence, anything offensive is an "attack". E.g. in a 5e with modern/futuristic weapons, a grenade would require a Dexterity save vs a fixed DC, but in Saga you'd use an attack roll against the target's Reflex defense. [*]Binary skills – you get a general bonus to all skills based on level, and if you're proficient you get a +5 (with the potential for +5 more for a feat). [*]I [B]think[/B] force powers refreshed with a fairly short rest period, essentially making them encounter powers. [/LIST] But other than Force powers, you generally didn't have AEDU-style powers, and there wasn't anything close to healing surges. [/QUOTE]

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