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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8272975" data-attributes="member: 7023840"><p>The thing is, the <em>implied story</em> that you see wasn't the <em>actual story</em> that many played. That is the amazing thing about games of the imagination.</p><p></p><p>But more importantly, I think there are two equally bad types of errors to make:</p><p>1. "What is appealing to people like me is appealing to everyone, therefore they must like what I like;" and</p><p>2. "What is appealing to people like me is not appealing or relatable to people unlike me, therefore they will not like what I like."</p><p></p><p>Weirdly, I don't think that primary problem in our society is (1). The primary problem is, and has been for a long time, (2).</p><p></p><p>"Girls don't like sports."</p><p>"Gay people don't like country music."</p><p>"Black people don't play golf."</p><p></p><p>Etc.</p><p></p><p>When we start with the assumption that "the other" is fundamentally unlike us (cannot relate to the the same things we do), it becomes easy to ignore them. Instead, it is usually better to <u>let people in with no assumptions</u>, and see what new and amazing things they bring!</p><p></p><p>I mention this because I believe you mean well, but so much exclusion starts with the premise that "things I like can't be liked by (this other group), therefore it's okay (that this other group) isn't involved in this thing that I like."</p><p></p><p></p><p>EDIT- to the extent this is unclear, people always argue, "It's okay that Pretentious Country Club doesn't have black people- golf just isn't appealing to them." Or, "I don't know why we have equal opportunities under Title IX; everyone knows girls don't like sports." </p><p></p><p>Yeah, it seems silly, doesn't it? And yet .... that's the argument of exclusion. It's always better to start with the belief that all people would like to do something, and then examine why they are not doing it (if they aren't).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 8272975, member: 7023840"] The thing is, the [I]implied story[/I] that you see wasn't the [I]actual story[/I] that many played. That is the amazing thing about games of the imagination. But more importantly, I think there are two equally bad types of errors to make: 1. "What is appealing to people like me is appealing to everyone, therefore they must like what I like;" and 2. "What is appealing to people like me is not appealing or relatable to people unlike me, therefore they will not like what I like." Weirdly, I don't think that primary problem in our society is (1). The primary problem is, and has been for a long time, (2). "Girls don't like sports." "Gay people don't like country music." "Black people don't play golf." Etc. When we start with the assumption that "the other" is fundamentally unlike us (cannot relate to the the same things we do), it becomes easy to ignore them. Instead, it is usually better to [U]let people in with no assumptions[/U], and see what new and amazing things they bring! I mention this because I believe you mean well, but so much exclusion starts with the premise that "things I like can't be liked by (this other group), therefore it's okay (that this other group) isn't involved in this thing that I like." EDIT- to the extent this is unclear, people always argue, "It's okay that Pretentious Country Club doesn't have black people- golf just isn't appealing to them." Or, "I don't know why we have equal opportunities under Title IX; everyone knows girls don't like sports." Yeah, it seems silly, doesn't it? And yet .... that's the argument of exclusion. It's always better to start with the belief that all people would like to do something, and then examine why they are not doing it (if they aren't). [/QUOTE]
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