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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9074603" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>A convenient sidestepping of the argument.</p><p></p><p>The challenge of respect remains. You cannot foster an environment where everyone actually behaves respectfully without firmly correcting, or ejecting, people who behave disrespectfully--even if that isn't the absolutely maximal respectful response. This is a demonstrable phenomenon. Failure to fully enforce codes of conduct in widely-accessible spaces leads to that code of conduct being ignored on the regular. And if ignoring that code of conduct results in clientele being disrespectful--or even hostile--to other clientele? The people getting disrespect or hostility will leave. Why wouldn't they? They have every reason to not want to be disrespected (and even more reason to avoid hostility.)</p><p></p><p>Hence: "I'm not anti-murder. I just don't commit murders myself."</p><p></p><p>Of course, this then--naturally!--means one should ask what should, or should not, be part of a private enterprise's code of conduct. And, at least in the United States, so long as that code of conduct does not make distinctions on the basis of race, creed, gender, etc., the general consensus legally and ethically is, "Whatever the business wishes." Both you, and this other person, are equally free to claim what you each think <em>should</em> be in that code. The business in question will make the decision for themselves (and may even change that choice over time), unless and until a court of law says otherwise.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9074603, member: 6790260"] A convenient sidestepping of the argument. The challenge of respect remains. You cannot foster an environment where everyone actually behaves respectfully without firmly correcting, or ejecting, people who behave disrespectfully--even if that isn't the absolutely maximal respectful response. This is a demonstrable phenomenon. Failure to fully enforce codes of conduct in widely-accessible spaces leads to that code of conduct being ignored on the regular. And if ignoring that code of conduct results in clientele being disrespectful--or even hostile--to other clientele? The people getting disrespect or hostility will leave. Why wouldn't they? They have every reason to not want to be disrespected (and even more reason to avoid hostility.) Hence: "I'm not anti-murder. I just don't commit murders myself." Of course, this then--naturally!--means one should ask what should, or should not, be part of a private enterprise's code of conduct. And, at least in the United States, so long as that code of conduct does not make distinctions on the basis of race, creed, gender, etc., the general consensus legally and ethically is, "Whatever the business wishes." Both you, and this other person, are equally free to claim what you each think [I]should[/I] be in that code. The business in question will make the decision for themselves (and may even change that choice over time), unless and until a court of law says otherwise. [/QUOTE]
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