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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Technik4" data-source="post: 1803227" data-attributes="member: 7211">This post is more of a critique of your class, hopefully these suggestions will give you something more balanced to present your DM.First lets narrow the concept. As others said the potential monk gives up nothing to enter this prestige class. I have a suggestion for flavor, why not make 2 diametrically opposed sects, each only 5 levels. The chromatic Monks of IO would have to be non-good (So Lawful Neutral or Lawful Evil) and the metallic Monks of IO would have to be non-evil (So Lawful Neutral or Lawful Good). You don't have to change your prc like that, but it would give your DM some potential enemies.Speaking of pre-reqs, we should get rid of ability score pre-reqs. By and large most PRCs require skill ranks, feats, base saves, base attack bonus, alignment, race, or some class ability (like spellcasting or sneak attack). Forcing certain ability scores is also sorta moot in 3.5 since I can get ability boosting items to overcome them. So my first suggestion is to get rid of those.I like the language requirement and the encounter with a dragon requirement, those are both flavorful. The BAB requirement is good but high for a straight monk (whom this class seems to be geared for) and the skill and feat requirements are good but only Improved Initiative is a stretch for monks (most monks will have the knowledge, concentration, and of course the bonus feat improved unarmed strike. Additionally, monks will have either Improved Grapple or Stunning Fist). [While it is true that most monks may not have the skills, they are very accessible - since a monk gets 4 sp/level you can simply use 2 levels of sp to acquire them - while that may sound like a lot, many prcs require you to use 5 or 6 levels worth of skill ranks to qualify - that is what I meant by "only Improved Initiative is a stretch for monks" because using 1 feat is more precious than 8 sp (which are going towards decent skills!)]Ok, so back to prereqs. Since this seems like a dragon disciple-geared for a monk we should open it up a little, making it appealing for non-monks as well (although it will be easiest for a straight monk to do).From the looks of those, it is equally accessible to wizards/sorcerers as it is to monks (the arcansits need to take IUS (but are more likely to have the skills) and the monks need to take Improved Initiative (and spend some sp)). So we will add the hefty base save requirement of +4 to all saves, as well as a +4 BAB.Prerequisites: Base Fortitude, Reflex, and Will saving throws of at least +4Base Attack Bonus +4Improved Unarmed StrikeImproved InitiativeConcentration 4 ranksKnowledge (Arcana) 4 ranksMust be able to speak and write DraconicMust have survived an encounter with a dragon of at least adult ageNow it requires the arcanists to multiclass (or wait until they are higher level) to qualify and it doesn't really hinder the monk. On to abilities!Your prc is really cool, but it is way 'too' cool. Each level adds all the monk bennies as well as monk abilities! And the monk HD, sp, and saves are the same! He's a super-monk! more later...Technik</blockquote>

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