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<blockquote data-quote="myradale" data-source="post: 1867937" data-attributes="member: 25010"><p><strong>Version 2.0</strong></p><p></p><p>OK I bumped up the requirements, got rid of most of the Monk abilities and downplayed a few of the granted abilities. I'm still not sure it's balanced, but it's definately closer. What do you guys think I should do?</p><p></p><p>Disciple of Io</p><p>D&D 3.5 Prestige Class</p><p></p><p>Much as a Five Animals Fist Fighter looks to the natural world to enhance his martial technique, a Disciple of Io looks to the mighty dragons to improve his art.</p><p>A Disciple of Io looks upon both chromatic and metallic dragons with reverence and awe, seeking to improve himself and eventually become as potent as a dragon himself.</p><p>The only currently known teachings of the Disciples of Io are located at the “Grace of Io”, a mountain temple in the northern spine mountains of Faerun. There, an ancient sect of monks teaches the ways of dragon kind, secretly led by an ancient silver dragon in human form. Disciples of Io are easily identified by their rank belts; chromatic ranks are signified by a different color of silk belt and the metallic ranks by a different buckle (In a stylized dragon motif). Disciples can progress through the ranks unattended, but to obtain their belts, must travel back to the monastery to demonstrate their progress.</p><p></p><p>Hit Dice: d8</p><p>Requirements:</p><p> BAB: +6</p><p> Language: Draconic</p><p> Abilities: Dex 16, Wis 16</p><p> Base Fort, Will, Ref Saves: +4</p><p> Feats: Improved Unarmed Strike, Improved initiative, Stunning Attack</p><p> Skills: Knowledge(Arcana) 8 ranks, Concentration 4 ranks,</p><p> Balance 4 ranks</p><p> Special: Must have had an encounter with an adult dragon and </p><p> survived.</p><p> Continuing Special: The Disciples of Io are acetic monks, and must </p><p> take a lesser vow of poverty (not related to Exhalted Deeds) . </p><p> However, in dealing with dragons, it is often essential to have </p><p> an expensive bauble or bribe. Therefore, Disciples of Io are </p><p> restricted to owning 3 items that cost more than 5gp each, </p><p> and are restricted to 5gp in coins at all times. In addition, </p><p> Disciples are bound to honor dragonkind and choose at first </p><p> level to be aligned with either metallic or chromatic dragons </p><p> (usually based on their first dragon experience). Disciples must </p><p> readily give aid or service to any like aligned adult dragon.</p><p></p><p>Class Skills:</p><p> The Disciple of Io’s class skills and the relevant abilities are: Appraise(Int), Balance(Dex), Climb(Str), Concentration(Con), Hide(Dex), Intimidation(Cha), Jump(Str), Knowledge(Arcana), Listen(Wis), Spot(Wis), and Tumble(Dex)</p><p></p><p>Skill Points Per Level: 4+ Int Bonus</p><p>Class Features: All the following are class features of the Disciple of Io</p><p>Weapon and Armor Proficiency: the Disciple of Io gains no new weapon or </p><p> armor proficiencies.</p><p>Monk Abilities: A Disciple of Io continues to gain the monk’s unarmored speed </p><p> bonuses, but NOT his flurry attack progression, AC bonuses, or </p><p> unarmed damage increases. He gains Stunning Attack uses per day </p><p> as a monk of his monk and Disciple levels combined.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Spirit of the Dragon: At 1st level the Disciple may choose between the</p><p> Dragon Friend and the Dragon Foe Feats even if he does not meet the</p><p> prerequisites. At 5th Level, he will receive either the Dragon Cohort or</p><p> the Dragon Bane Feat based on his previous choice.</p><p></p><p>White Dragon’s Tail: Disciples are taught to use the spiked chain much as a </p><p> dragon uses its tail attack, and “Spiked Chain” is added to the list of </p><p> monk special weapons for the Disciple.</p><p></p><p>Grace of the Brass Dragon: The Disciple learns to channel his inner energy </p><p> into his body to perform incredible feats of balance. For each </p><p> stunning attack for the day given up as a free action, the Disciple </p><p> gains a +20 bonus to Balance checks for one round. This allows the </p><p> Disciple to balance on surfaces that would normally be impossible (see </p><p> Table below)</p><p></p><p>Surface Balance DC</p><p>7-12 inches wide 10</p><p>2-6 inches wide 15</p><p>1-2 Inches wide 20</p><p>Less than an inch wide 25</p><p>Moving Friendly creature 30</p><p>Unfriendly Creature 40</p><p>Moving Unfriendly Creature 50</p><p>Nearly Vertical surface 60</p><p>Unfriendly Flying Creature 70</p><p>Any "impossible" surface, 90</p><p> including water, a tiny branch, </p><p>a vertical surface etc.</p><p> </p><p></p><p>Strength of the Black Dragon: Starting at 3rd level, a Disciple gains the ability</p><p> to make a DC 15 concentration check as a move action to focus his</p><p> energy and spirit. If he succeeds he gains +8 to his strength for a </p><p> number of rounds equal to ½ his class level. Each time after the </p><p> first that the kensai successfully uses this ability in a day, the </p><p> check DC increases by 5.</p><p></p><p>Senses of the Dragon: The Disciple learns to sense his environment much as a</p><p> dragon would, losing his dependence on his natural vision and </p><p> gaining the supernatural ability Blindsense 10’.</p><p></p><p>Blue Dragons Scales: The Disciple learns to harden his body against impact,</p><p> and gains a +2 natural armor bonus to his AC. This bonus applies </p><p> when he is denied his Dexterity bonus or held. But not when </p><p> flatfooted or unconcious.</p><p></p><p>Focus of the Bronze Dragon: The Disciple learns to channel his inner energy </p><p> inwards, giving him superior powers of concentration. For each </p><p> stunning attack for the day given up as a free action, the Disciple </p><p> gains a +10 bonus to Concentration checks for one round.</p><p></p><p>Shadow of the Green Dragon: The Disciple gains a +10 inherent bonus to </p><p> intimidate and gains the Frightful Presence feat even if he does not </p><p> meet the prerequisites.</p><p></p><p>Mind of the Silver Dragon: The Disciple gains spell resistance equal to 10 + his</p><p> current monk level + his current Disciple of Io level. In order to </p><p> affect the Disciple with a spell, the caster must succeed on a </p><p> caster check (1d20+caster level) that equals or exceeds the </p><p> Disciples spell resistance. If the Disciple gains spell resistance from </p><p> some other source (such as a Monk’s Diamond Soul ability) only the </p><p> greatest spell resistance has any effect.</p><p></p><p>Breath of the Red Dragon: The Disciple gains the ability to make a breath </p><p> attack that assumes the form of a 30’ cone of fire and does damage</p><p> equal to his (Disciple of Io level)d6. This ability is usable 3 times a </p><p> day, no more often than once every 10 rounds, and does not </p><p> provoke an attack of opportunity.</p><p></p><p>Soul of the Dragon: The Disciple gains the ability to polymorph themselves </p><p> into a Dragon of their alignment as a standard action, with hit dice </p><p> that match their current character level as per the spell (no 15HD </p><p> limit). This change lasts for 1 hour and can be activated once a </p><p> day.</p><p></p><p></p><p>EX – Disciples of Io: Any character who voluntarily gives up his vow of </p><p> poverty or refuses to render service to a like aligned dragon can </p><p> never again proceed as a Disciple of Io (unless atonement is </p><p> received from the temple master). However, all class abilities </p><p> gained to that point are retained except for the Spirit, Mind, Breath</p><p> and Soul.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="myradale, post: 1867937, member: 25010"] [b]Version 2.0[/b] OK I bumped up the requirements, got rid of most of the Monk abilities and downplayed a few of the granted abilities. I'm still not sure it's balanced, but it's definately closer. What do you guys think I should do? Disciple of Io D&D 3.5 Prestige Class Much as a Five Animals Fist Fighter looks to the natural world to enhance his martial technique, a Disciple of Io looks to the mighty dragons to improve his art. A Disciple of Io looks upon both chromatic and metallic dragons with reverence and awe, seeking to improve himself and eventually become as potent as a dragon himself. The only currently known teachings of the Disciples of Io are located at the “Grace of Io”, a mountain temple in the northern spine mountains of Faerun. There, an ancient sect of monks teaches the ways of dragon kind, secretly led by an ancient silver dragon in human form. Disciples of Io are easily identified by their rank belts; chromatic ranks are signified by a different color of silk belt and the metallic ranks by a different buckle (In a stylized dragon motif). Disciples can progress through the ranks unattended, but to obtain their belts, must travel back to the monastery to demonstrate their progress. Hit Dice: d8 Requirements: BAB: +6 Language: Draconic Abilities: Dex 16, Wis 16 Base Fort, Will, Ref Saves: +4 Feats: Improved Unarmed Strike, Improved initiative, Stunning Attack Skills: Knowledge(Arcana) 8 ranks, Concentration 4 ranks, Balance 4 ranks Special: Must have had an encounter with an adult dragon and survived. Continuing Special: The Disciples of Io are acetic monks, and must take a lesser vow of poverty (not related to Exhalted Deeds) . However, in dealing with dragons, it is often essential to have an expensive bauble or bribe. Therefore, Disciples of Io are restricted to owning 3 items that cost more than 5gp each, and are restricted to 5gp in coins at all times. In addition, Disciples are bound to honor dragonkind and choose at first level to be aligned with either metallic or chromatic dragons (usually based on their first dragon experience). Disciples must readily give aid or service to any like aligned adult dragon. Class Skills: The Disciple of Io’s class skills and the relevant abilities are: Appraise(Int), Balance(Dex), Climb(Str), Concentration(Con), Hide(Dex), Intimidation(Cha), Jump(Str), Knowledge(Arcana), Listen(Wis), Spot(Wis), and Tumble(Dex) Skill Points Per Level: 4+ Int Bonus Class Features: All the following are class features of the Disciple of Io Weapon and Armor Proficiency: the Disciple of Io gains no new weapon or armor proficiencies. Monk Abilities: A Disciple of Io continues to gain the monk’s unarmored speed bonuses, but NOT his flurry attack progression, AC bonuses, or unarmed damage increases. He gains Stunning Attack uses per day as a monk of his monk and Disciple levels combined. Spirit of the Dragon: At 1st level the Disciple may choose between the Dragon Friend and the Dragon Foe Feats even if he does not meet the prerequisites. At 5th Level, he will receive either the Dragon Cohort or the Dragon Bane Feat based on his previous choice. White Dragon’s Tail: Disciples are taught to use the spiked chain much as a dragon uses its tail attack, and “Spiked Chain” is added to the list of monk special weapons for the Disciple. Grace of the Brass Dragon: The Disciple learns to channel his inner energy into his body to perform incredible feats of balance. For each stunning attack for the day given up as a free action, the Disciple gains a +20 bonus to Balance checks for one round. This allows the Disciple to balance on surfaces that would normally be impossible (see Table below) Surface Balance DC 7-12 inches wide 10 2-6 inches wide 15 1-2 Inches wide 20 Less than an inch wide 25 Moving Friendly creature 30 Unfriendly Creature 40 Moving Unfriendly Creature 50 Nearly Vertical surface 60 Unfriendly Flying Creature 70 Any "impossible" surface, 90 including water, a tiny branch, a vertical surface etc. Strength of the Black Dragon: Starting at 3rd level, a Disciple gains the ability to make a DC 15 concentration check as a move action to focus his energy and spirit. If he succeeds he gains +8 to his strength for a number of rounds equal to ½ his class level. Each time after the first that the kensai successfully uses this ability in a day, the check DC increases by 5. Senses of the Dragon: The Disciple learns to sense his environment much as a dragon would, losing his dependence on his natural vision and gaining the supernatural ability Blindsense 10’. Blue Dragons Scales: The Disciple learns to harden his body against impact, and gains a +2 natural armor bonus to his AC. This bonus applies when he is denied his Dexterity bonus or held. But not when flatfooted or unconcious. Focus of the Bronze Dragon: The Disciple learns to channel his inner energy inwards, giving him superior powers of concentration. For each stunning attack for the day given up as a free action, the Disciple gains a +10 bonus to Concentration checks for one round. Shadow of the Green Dragon: The Disciple gains a +10 inherent bonus to intimidate and gains the Frightful Presence feat even if he does not meet the prerequisites. Mind of the Silver Dragon: The Disciple gains spell resistance equal to 10 + his current monk level + his current Disciple of Io level. In order to affect the Disciple with a spell, the caster must succeed on a caster check (1d20+caster level) that equals or exceeds the Disciples spell resistance. If the Disciple gains spell resistance from some other source (such as a Monk’s Diamond Soul ability) only the greatest spell resistance has any effect. Breath of the Red Dragon: The Disciple gains the ability to make a breath attack that assumes the form of a 30’ cone of fire and does damage equal to his (Disciple of Io level)d6. This ability is usable 3 times a day, no more often than once every 10 rounds, and does not provoke an attack of opportunity. Soul of the Dragon: The Disciple gains the ability to polymorph themselves into a Dragon of their alignment as a standard action, with hit dice that match their current character level as per the spell (no 15HD limit). This change lasts for 1 hour and can be activated once a day. EX – Disciples of Io: Any character who voluntarily gives up his vow of poverty or refuses to render service to a like aligned dragon can never again proceed as a Disciple of Io (unless atonement is received from the temple master). However, all class abilities gained to that point are retained except for the Spirit, Mind, Breath and Soul. [/QUOTE]
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