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<blockquote data-quote="Methos" data-source="post: 349290" data-attributes="member: 5734">You know, I would tend to agree with you.&nbsp; It appears that there are other posters out there who seem to think that a player who actually wants to become herioc, and get some treasure and magic items and not have a DM capriciously take them away must be METAGAMING!!Sorry, I think that is a cop out.&nbsp; A big part of D&amp;D is to imagine yourself becoming a mighty hero and wielding powerful magic, and battling powerful monsters.&nbsp; And, by the way, maybe gaining a little treasure along the way.I'm going to take this to the extreme, since we already have faced as 4th and 5th level characters a CR 14 creature, which fundamentally goes against some of the basic tenets of the game where your CR should not exceed your average party level by 2 or is it 3?&nbsp; I don't have my books in front of me, so I'm not sure.So, let's assume that we as a party make it to 15-16th level.&nbsp; Here's a scenario.DM:&nbsp; &quot;You step through the portal.&nbsp; All of your party's magic items and mundane items disappear, and all spellcasters have their spells for the day wiped from memory and psions lose all of their remaining power points for the day.&nbsp; Standing before you are 2 Balors&quot;. Players:&nbsp; &quot;We go back through the portal the other way&quot;.DM:&nbsp; &quot;Sorry, you can't.&nbsp; It is a one-way portal&quot;.Players:&nbsp; &quot;We look for an exit&quot;.DM:&nbsp; &quot;There appear to be no exits&quot;.Players:&nbsp; &quot;We disbelieve; this must be an illusion&quot;.DM:&nbsp; &quot;No effect&quot;.&nbsp; &quot;The Balors attacks&quot;........and so it goes.Instant kill.&nbsp; Gee, it really is easy to be a DM after all, as the DM chuckles maniacally.Sorry, but I'm a little sarcastic when it comes to people who use the words &quot;Metagaming&quot;, it's sort of like &quot;name-dropping&quot; in the Corporate World.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Methos, post: 349290, member: 5734"] You know, I would tend to agree with you. It appears that there are other posters out there who seem to think that a player who actually wants to become herioc, and get some treasure and magic items and not have a DM capriciously take them away must be METAGAMING!! Sorry, I think that is a cop out. A big part of D&D is to imagine yourself becoming a mighty hero and wielding powerful magic, and battling powerful monsters. And, by the way, maybe gaining a little treasure along the way. I'm going to take this to the extreme, since we already have faced as 4th and 5th level characters a CR 14 creature, which fundamentally goes against some of the basic tenets of the game where your CR should not exceed your average party level by 2 or is it 3? I don't have my books in front of me, so I'm not sure. So, let's assume that we as a party make it to 15-16th level. Here's a scenario. DM: "You step through the portal. All of your party's magic items and mundane items disappear, and all spellcasters have their spells for the day wiped from memory and psions lose all of their remaining power points for the day. Standing before you are 2 Balors". Players: "We go back through the portal the other way". DM: "Sorry, you can't. It is a one-way portal". Players: "We look for an exit". DM: "There appear to be no exits". Players: "We disbelieve; this must be an illusion". DM: "No effect". "The Balors attacks"........and so it goes. Instant kill. Gee, it really is easy to be a DM after all, as the DM chuckles maniacally. Sorry, but I'm a little sarcastic when it comes to people who use the words "Metagaming", it's sort of like "name-dropping" in the Corporate World. [/QUOTE]

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