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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 8081659" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>Is this a one-off, or do you expect to play multiple sessions before finishing the GM's scenarios? And do you start at level 1?</p><p></p><p>If a one-off, choose whatever you like - even Alchemist. If you start at a higher level (at least level 7, ideally 11 or even higher), the same. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>But if you're about to embark on a multi-session adventure starting at level 1, I can only suggest you reconsider your decision not to play a martial (Fighter, Barbarian, Rogue, Ranger, Paladin). And if you absolutely must play a spell caster, that you choose between Bard, (heal) Cleric or Druid.</p><p></p><p>Slotted spells are weaker than in any other edition of D&D ever, with the exception of the Heal spell. And Bards and Druids rely much less on these weak tools than other spellcasting classes. To make that clear - the reasons Bards and Druids are held in high regard is precisely because they don't have to rely on their spell slots.</p><p></p><p>As far as I understand Witches and Oracles aren't much better than Wizards - more complicated, but for little benefit. But consider this hearsay, I haven't yet had a chance to see any APG class in action myself.</p><p></p><p>Of course, if your GM isn't planning on running official adventures, which are uniformly <em>extremely hard</em> (from a 5E gamer's perspective) especially at low level, it doesn't really matter who does more damage, and for a friendly home game (say a sandbox exploration game), you should ignore everything I just said <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 8081659, member: 12731"] Is this a one-off, or do you expect to play multiple sessions before finishing the GM's scenarios? And do you start at level 1? If a one-off, choose whatever you like - even Alchemist. If you start at a higher level (at least level 7, ideally 11 or even higher), the same. :) But if you're about to embark on a multi-session adventure starting at level 1, I can only suggest you reconsider your decision not to play a martial (Fighter, Barbarian, Rogue, Ranger, Paladin). And if you absolutely must play a spell caster, that you choose between Bard, (heal) Cleric or Druid. Slotted spells are weaker than in any other edition of D&D ever, with the exception of the Heal spell. And Bards and Druids rely much less on these weak tools than other spellcasting classes. To make that clear - the reasons Bards and Druids are held in high regard is precisely because they don't have to rely on their spell slots. As far as I understand Witches and Oracles aren't much better than Wizards - more complicated, but for little benefit. But consider this hearsay, I haven't yet had a chance to see any APG class in action myself. Of course, if your GM isn't planning on running official adventures, which are uniformly [I]extremely hard[/I] (from a 5E gamer's perspective) especially at low level, it doesn't really matter who does more damage, and for a friendly home game (say a sandbox exploration game), you should ignore everything I just said :) [/QUOTE]
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