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<blockquote data-quote="evilbob" data-source="post: 4016189" data-attributes="member: 9789">I've always thought the silence spell was pretty powerful, especially since it has been debated and generally thought (on these boards, anyway) that someone caught in the effect of the spell (but not the recipient of the spell) doesn't get a save against it.&nbsp; So I wondered if perhaps this would work:A cleric gets close to an enemy caster and readies an action to cast silence on himself when the caster casts any spell (wands, scrolls, etc. included).&nbsp; The caster goes, and begins to cast.&nbsp; The cleric's action is triggered and he casts silence on himself.&nbsp; This should ruin the caster's spell.&nbsp; Let's say the caster moves at that point away from the cleric and out of range of the spell (free AoO!).Next round.&nbsp; The cleric readied an action to interupt the caster, so he goes before the caster.&nbsp; Assuming the cleric can move as fast as the caster, let's say he again moves next to the caster and readies an action to move with the caster where ever he goes.&nbsp; The caster follows and tries to move away from the cleric (AoO again perhaps).&nbsp; The cleric's action is triggered and he moves with the caster.&nbsp; At this point the caster can do one of two things:&nbsp; move again, which will get him further from the cleric but repeat this dance ad naseum, or give up casting (unless he has a Silent spell prepared).The only way I can think that this trick wouldn't work would be if the caster moves to a place the cleric can't follow, like through a space occupied by an ally of the caster that the cleric can't get around easily.&nbsp; (Or if he'd already cast &quot;fly&quot; or something like that.)&nbsp; Also, obviously if the cleric's speed is much less than the caster, that would eventually get the caster free.&nbsp; (However, an enclosed area could remove this advantage.)&nbsp; And yes, there is the constant penalty that the cleric isn't using any of his own actions but instead ruining another's, but if the caster were particularly powerful this might be a more than fair trade.Is there any other reason this wouldn't work?And as a side question, if a caster tried to use a scroll or a wand and was silenced while doing it, would that use up the scroll and/or a charge of the wand, or would that basically stop it from being used so it's not wasted?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="evilbob, post: 4016189, member: 9789"] I've always thought the [I]silence[/I] spell was pretty powerful, especially since it has been debated and generally thought (on these boards, anyway) that someone caught in the effect of the spell (but not the recipient of the spell) doesn't get a save against it. So I wondered if perhaps this would work: A cleric gets close to an enemy caster and readies an action to cast silence on himself when the caster casts any spell (wands, scrolls, etc. included). The caster goes, and begins to cast. The cleric's action is triggered and he casts silence on himself. This should ruin the caster's spell. Let's say the caster moves at that point away from the cleric and out of range of the spell (free AoO!). Next round. The cleric readied an action to interupt the caster, so he goes before the caster. Assuming the cleric can move as fast as the caster, let's say he again moves next to the caster and readies an action to move with the caster where ever he goes. The caster follows and tries to move away from the cleric (AoO again perhaps). The cleric's action is triggered and he moves with the caster. At this point the caster can do one of two things: move again, which will get him further from the cleric but repeat this dance ad naseum, or give up casting (unless he has a Silent spell prepared). The only way I can think that this trick wouldn't work would be if the caster moves to a place the cleric can't follow, like through a space occupied by an ally of the caster that the cleric can't get around easily. (Or if he'd already cast "fly" or something like that.) Also, obviously if the cleric's speed is much less than the caster, that would eventually get the caster free. (However, an enclosed area could remove this advantage.) And yes, there is the constant penalty that the cleric isn't using any of his own actions but instead ruining another's, but if the caster were particularly powerful this might be a more than fair trade. Is there any other reason this wouldn't work? And as a side question, if a caster tried to use a scroll or a wand and was silenced while doing it, would that use up the scroll and/or a charge of the wand, or would that basically stop it from being used so it's not wasted? [/QUOTE]

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