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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Zardoz" data-source="post: 4018916" data-attributes="member: 704"><p>I do not think that a house rule specific to the spell is really required here. Clever players can work around it pretty easily. All you need to do is remember that the spell is an emanation effect. All that you need to do is break the line of effect, which can be done pretty easily. All you need to do is get in the 'shadow' of something that can break the line of effect. The only time this is going to be nearly impossible is if the effect is centered on yourself.</p><p></p><p>The only time the spell can become problematic is if the spell ends up centered on your spell caster in such a way that they cannot get away from it. If it is directly centered, you do get a Will Save, which is pretty easy for most casters. If it is centered on an object and then attached to the caster (tanglefoot bag / barbed arrow), that gets more problematic. I would be very careful about allowing that kind of use, since it is essentially an attempt to center it on a caster without granting the benefit of a Will save.</p><p></p><p>I think the most tactically useful way to achieve this effect is to center it on a melee attacker, and then to have that attacker make an effort to stay near the caster. This is dangerously effective, but can still be worked around. The caster will at worst have to eat an AoO for movement, but he can still move away then cast.</p><p></p><p>The best on the spot counter to a Silence spell is a potion of Invisibility. The best general counter would be a Silent Dispel Magic. The Silent spell is not a very sexy feat, but it is the best option to deal with this.</p><p></p><p>END COMMUNICATION</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Zardoz, post: 4018916, member: 704"] I do not think that a house rule specific to the spell is really required here. Clever players can work around it pretty easily. All you need to do is remember that the spell is an emanation effect. All that you need to do is break the line of effect, which can be done pretty easily. All you need to do is get in the 'shadow' of something that can break the line of effect. The only time this is going to be nearly impossible is if the effect is centered on yourself. The only time the spell can become problematic is if the spell ends up centered on your spell caster in such a way that they cannot get away from it. If it is directly centered, you do get a Will Save, which is pretty easy for most casters. If it is centered on an object and then attached to the caster (tanglefoot bag / barbed arrow), that gets more problematic. I would be very careful about allowing that kind of use, since it is essentially an attempt to center it on a caster without granting the benefit of a Will save. I think the most tactically useful way to achieve this effect is to center it on a melee attacker, and then to have that attacker make an effort to stay near the caster. This is dangerously effective, but can still be worked around. The caster will at worst have to eat an AoO for movement, but he can still move away then cast. The best on the spot counter to a Silence spell is a potion of Invisibility. The best general counter would be a Silent Dispel Magic. The Silent spell is not a very sexy feat, but it is the best option to deal with this. END COMMUNICATION [/QUOTE]
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