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<blockquote data-quote="Telas" data-source="post: 2694575" data-attributes="member: 20934"><p>There seem to be three schools on this:</p><p></p><p>1. It draws an AoO, since the cleric is both exposed and has to turn his attention to the fallen buddy. Reaching into someone else's square draws the AoO, not the spell.</p><p></p><p>2. By virtue of making an attack roll, the cleric does not draw an AoO, so the "defender" would have to have a readied action to be able to attack. However, the cleric can miss his attack.</p><p></p><p>3. Rules-as-written do not address this specific situation, so it's just the same as if the defender were not there.</p><p></p><p>To clarify, we're not talking about anyone's potential AoO except the defender standing over the unconscious body. </p><p></p><p>I lean towards the first option. Although I do see the argument in the second option, calling it an attack to avoid AoO smells slightly of rules manipulation. The third option is a bit unrealistic (yes, I know we're talking D&D combat). </p><p></p><p>To boil it down: Does reaching into an occupied square draw an AoO? (no - think of a touch spell.) Does grabbing something from the floor of an occupied square draw an AoO? (yes - just as grabbing something from the floor of a threatened square does.) Where does this action fall between these? </p><p></p><p>Please, keep discussing. This is the kind of stuff I like about ENworld forums - intelligent discussion of the grey areas in the rules. </p><p></p><p>Telas</p><p></p><p>(PS: The action was potentially fatal - the cleric was injured and the defender was a 13th level Barbarian with a Keen Greataxe, normally getting 30+ points per hit, occasionally critting for over 90.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Telas, post: 2694575, member: 20934"] There seem to be three schools on this: 1. It draws an AoO, since the cleric is both exposed and has to turn his attention to the fallen buddy. Reaching into someone else's square draws the AoO, not the spell. 2. By virtue of making an attack roll, the cleric does not draw an AoO, so the "defender" would have to have a readied action to be able to attack. However, the cleric can miss his attack. 3. Rules-as-written do not address this specific situation, so it's just the same as if the defender were not there. To clarify, we're not talking about anyone's potential AoO except the defender standing over the unconscious body. I lean towards the first option. Although I do see the argument in the second option, calling it an attack to avoid AoO smells slightly of rules manipulation. The third option is a bit unrealistic (yes, I know we're talking D&D combat). To boil it down: Does reaching into an occupied square draw an AoO? (no - think of a touch spell.) Does grabbing something from the floor of an occupied square draw an AoO? (yes - just as grabbing something from the floor of a threatened square does.) Where does this action fall between these? Please, keep discussing. This is the kind of stuff I like about ENworld forums - intelligent discussion of the grey areas in the rules. Telas (PS: The action was potentially fatal - the cleric was injured and the defender was a 13th level Barbarian with a Keen Greataxe, normally getting 30+ points per hit, occasionally critting for over 90.) [/QUOTE]
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