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<blockquote data-quote="Vraille Darkfang" data-source="post: 2696055" data-attributes="member: 16989">No,My EXACT rulingis that trying to physcally interfer with an object (an unconscious being included) within teh same square you occupy provokes an AoO.&nbsp; For Example.&nbsp; If you have a book strapped to your body &amp; someone attempts to sunder it, you get an AoO (pg 158 PHB).&nbsp; If they attempt to, say Disentigrate it via some Touch Effect, would you still not get the AoO?&nbsp; But, if said book lies in between you feet you get nada?&nbsp; That makes no sense to me.&nbsp; They can't touch your belt buckle without you taking a whack at them, but the box you got your foot on is fair game?This comes down to what is considered 'yours' while within your space.&nbsp; If something wants to touch anything you got, then it gets punched.&nbsp; Yet if its merely at your feet, you get nothing (this might be the 'offical' answer).&nbsp;&nbsp; Claiming CLW as an Unarmed 'Armed' Strike or that you can decide to call it a Touch Attack against a 'willing, yet unwillling' ally is Rules Weaseling.&nbsp; No thank you.A Peacock feather is not a weapon, sure you can 'attack' me with it, even roll the die to see if you hit.&nbsp; I'm not ruling it an Attack.Same here.&nbsp; IF the foe is on the ground, you are standing DIRECTLY on top of him.&nbsp; If he tries to hit you with Cure Light Wounds, you can smack him CLW is no more a 'Credible Threat' (to quote the PHB 141), than a wet pasta noodle (Ok, you want to get picky I guess you could require a Spellcraft check to know the spell is harmless, but after 3rd level or so, most characters are pretty familiar with Cure Spells, having them cast on you repeatedly sort of does that).&nbsp; He tries to bend over and pat his pal at your feet with a Cure Light Wounds spell, you get to smack him.&nbsp; After all by the rules if you picked him up &amp; hefted him over your shoulder (encumbracne permitting), it WOULD provoke an AoO for him to touch the sack of potatoes draped over your body.&nbsp; I can't see how it changes if he's at your feet.Now, if the foe were casting Cause Light Wounds (perhaps to prevent the foe from talking), it gets a little different.&nbsp; Now you are being approached by a with a &quot;Cerdible Threat'.&nbsp; I could see saying you may now resolve the touch normally, but.&nbsp; Again you throw the foe over your shoulders &amp; you get the AoO for him trying to touch 'objects worn or carried'.I'm just expanding &quot;Worn or Carried&quot; to include objects within your square.PS.&nbsp; The whole AoO for having the Cleric cast a Healing Spell on you is fine (agian CLW is not a Credible Threat).&nbsp; But you whack the cleric trying to Cure you.....No Heal for You!! (Its been awhile since I've had a player that inter-party destructive).The only rules I'm changing/Interpreting:1.&nbsp; Unarmed &quot;Armed&quot; Touched spells, must, indeed be a 'Credible Threat'.2.&nbsp; &quot;Worn or Carried&quot; Includes what is generally within your space (not REACH, just SPACE).However, I'm now re-reading the Touch &amp; Sunder Rules to see if I still agree with my initial descsion.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Vraille Darkfang, post: 2696055, member: 16989"] No, My EXACT rulingis that trying to physcally interfer with an object (an unconscious being included) within teh same square you occupy provokes an AoO. For Example. If you have a book strapped to your body & someone attempts to sunder it, you get an AoO (pg 158 PHB). If they attempt to, say Disentigrate it via some Touch Effect, would you still not get the AoO? But, if said book lies in between you feet you get nada? That makes no sense to me. They can't touch your belt buckle without you taking a whack at them, but the box you got your foot on is fair game? This comes down to what is considered 'yours' while within your space. If something wants to touch anything you got, then it gets punched. Yet if its merely at your feet, you get nothing (this might be the 'offical' answer). Claiming CLW as an Unarmed 'Armed' Strike or that you can decide to call it a Touch Attack against a 'willing, yet unwillling' ally is Rules Weaseling. No thank you. A Peacock feather is not a weapon, sure you can 'attack' me with it, even roll the die to see if you hit. I'm not ruling it an Attack. Same here. IF the foe is on the ground, you are standing DIRECTLY on top of him. If he tries to hit you with Cure Light Wounds, you can smack him CLW is no more a 'Credible Threat' (to quote the PHB 141), than a wet pasta noodle (Ok, you want to get picky I guess you could require a Spellcraft check to know the spell is harmless, but after 3rd level or so, most characters are pretty familiar with Cure Spells, having them cast on you repeatedly sort of does that). He tries to bend over and pat his pal at your feet with a Cure Light Wounds spell, you get to smack him. After all by the rules if you picked him up & hefted him over your shoulder (encumbracne permitting), it WOULD provoke an AoO for him to touch the sack of potatoes draped over your body. I can't see how it changes if he's at your feet. Now, if the foe were casting Cause Light Wounds (perhaps to prevent the foe from talking), it gets a little different. Now you are being approached by a with a "Cerdible Threat'. I could see saying you may now resolve the touch normally, but. Again you throw the foe over your shoulders & you get the AoO for him trying to touch 'objects worn or carried'. I'm just expanding "Worn or Carried" to include objects within your square. PS. The whole AoO for having the Cleric cast a Healing Spell on you is fine (agian CLW is not a Credible Threat). But you whack the cleric trying to Cure you..... No Heal for You!! (Its been awhile since I've had a player that inter-party destructive). The only rules I'm changing/Interpreting: 1. Unarmed "Armed" Touched spells, must, indeed be a 'Credible Threat'. 2. "Worn or Carried" Includes what is generally within your space (not REACH, just SPACE). However, I'm now re-reading the Touch & Sunder Rules to see if I still agree with my initial descsion. [/QUOTE]

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