Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.

Reply to thread

Message: <blockquote data-quote="nogray" data-source="post: 2701629" data-attributes="member: 28028">Attack an ObjectPersonally, I think the core of this has nothing to do with touch spells. My thoughts on this center on the "Attack an Object" options. By my way of thinking, attacking an object is far closer to touching a helpless person than either picking up an object or opening a door. This is especially true to me in that "attack" could very well mean "attack with a touch spell." Further, these attack options differentiate between objects "held, carried, or worn" and objects that are not. Clearly (to me), attacking a worn object with a touch attack spell would provoke an attack of opportunity even though attacking the wearer directly would not. It is also clear that attacking a definitively unattended object would result in no attack of opportunity.It appears to me that what the fighter in the original scenario was trying to do was to treat the fallen opponent as a "held, carried, or worn" object and extend the level of protection from interference afforded to those objects to his foe. The only thing that I am uncertain about in this situation is whether the 5' adjust into the square of the unconscious opponent constitutes enough effort to consider the opponent attended (in the sense that an object that is held, carried, or worn is an "attended" object). If the fighter had spent an action (I'd lean towards at least a move action), I'd be inclined to say that he could treat the foe as a "held, carried, or worn" object, but as this is not the case, I would be much less comfortable in doing so.(Going into "Over-thinking Way Too Much" Mode):As noted many times, the actions in combat are abstractions, particularly the splitting of actions into discreet rounds. It could be conceivable that the fighter (at the end of a full attack sequence, presumably) just barely manages to move into place at the same time that the cleric (who is also completing his round of actions) completes the delivery of the touch spell. This argues against an attack of opportunity. If the fighter had spent a move action, this would definitely (to me) not be the case, and I would be inclined to let the attack of opportunity happen.(Exiting OWTM Mode)My conclusion is this: simply occupying the same space as an object (or a helpless character, for that matter) is not sufficient to treat the object as "held, carried, or worn" for the purposes of attacks of opportunity. Spending some sort of action (at least a move action) might be enough to do so. Actually picking up the object (or opponent) would definitely protect it from such interferences.</blockquote>

Verification