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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2702030" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Do they?</p><p></p><p>"Not an Action: Some activities are so minor that they are not even considered free actions. They <strong>literally</strong> don’t take any time at all to do and <strong>are considered an inherent part of doing something else</strong>."</p><p></p><p>It is not it's own action, it is part of another action. So, how do the AoO rules apply to actions which are not actions? According to all precedence in the game, the AoO rules do not apply. Ever. There is not one example of an NAA ever resulting in an AoO (or a free action for that matter). You just do not "divert your attention from battle" by doing something that does not take any time at all to do. That really does not make sense, nor do you have one example of it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Your "minor loophole" is a slippery slope with the rules. It allows you to have an AoO on a "Not An Action" action and to have an AoO on the action that the NAA was part of.</p><p></p><p>Two AoOs for the price of one.</p><p></p><p>Free actions do not ever have an AoO associated with them.</p><p></p><p>NAA actions do not ever have an AoO associated with them.</p><p></p><p>But, even with all of this precedence, you are grasping at straws here and claiming that "Well, you can do it...".</p><p></p><p></p><p>This leads to things like: "I Overrun you. You can avoid it. But, because my familiar is on my shoulder, I THINK it should get an AoO against you because you are now in the same square as the familiar and performing a NAA to avoid. Avoidance never resulted in an AoO before (just like touch spells), but that's ok. The opponent is in the same square as the familiar, so I FEEL like it should happen."</p><p></p><p></p><p>If you are saying that it is ok for a DM to rule this way in his game, I agree.</p><p></p><p>If you are saying that the rules in any way support this (outside of the similar rule rule and even that is really stretching it because nothing you have used is similar at all), I disagree.</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is a minor literal loophole in the rules which is not supported in any way by any other rules.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 2702030, member: 2011"] Do they? "Not an Action: Some activities are so minor that they are not even considered free actions. They [b]literally[/b] don’t take any time at all to do and [b]are considered an inherent part of doing something else[/b]." It is not it's own action, it is part of another action. So, how do the AoO rules apply to actions which are not actions? According to all precedence in the game, the AoO rules do not apply. Ever. There is not one example of an NAA ever resulting in an AoO (or a free action for that matter). You just do not "divert your attention from battle" by doing something that does not take any time at all to do. That really does not make sense, nor do you have one example of it. Your "minor loophole" is a slippery slope with the rules. It allows you to have an AoO on a "Not An Action" action and to have an AoO on the action that the NAA was part of. Two AoOs for the price of one. Free actions do not ever have an AoO associated with them. NAA actions do not ever have an AoO associated with them. But, even with all of this precedence, you are grasping at straws here and claiming that "Well, you can do it...". This leads to things like: "I Overrun you. You can avoid it. But, because my familiar is on my shoulder, I THINK it should get an AoO against you because you are now in the same square as the familiar and performing a NAA to avoid. Avoidance never resulted in an AoO before (just like touch spells), but that's ok. The opponent is in the same square as the familiar, so I FEEL like it should happen." If you are saying that it is ok for a DM to rule this way in his game, I agree. If you are saying that the rules in any way support this (outside of the similar rule rule and even that is really stretching it because nothing you have used is similar at all), I disagree. This is a minor literal loophole in the rules which is not supported in any way by any other rules. [/QUOTE]
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