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<blockquote data-quote="Krail Stromquism" data-source="post: 1079201" data-attributes="member: 2400"><p><strong>oh my morals ache</strong></p><p></p><p>I did something a lot like this in my last campaign, a redux of the Pools of Radiance original Gold Box computer game.</p><p></p><p>I made the Slum area right next to New Phlan a kind of no mans land area. Whilst in that area the party ranger ran into a goblin in the midst of giving birth! Yoinks! He killed them both with out batting an eye. Favored enemy and all that. His alignment was CG. I pursued the morality of his actions just to get his veiw and try to develop his character a bit. He had a hard time with it, didnt want to think about it at all.</p><p></p><p>He quit shortly after that.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I think the moral side of things is a fun and interesting portion of the game and can really bring a fresh edge to it.</p><p></p><p>If this were to happen while I was DMing I'd try and do some kinda impromtu sanity check. I dont care if its good or evil, merciful or whatever. It'd be super cold blooded to do.</p><p></p><p>If the party was standing around with the filthy little wretches rolling around on the ground calmy debating "nah lets just kill it. Its the easiest thing to do" and they walk over like robots and do it. Thats pretty hardcore.</p><p></p><p>Its hard to look at pictures of dead babies let alone kill one. Who could kill a puppy with out flinching? Kobolds are kinda dogish right? Even if the puppy was near death who could just kill it? Let alone slit it throat! dang!</p><p></p><p>Most people would just spend time petting it until they thought it was dead. This wouldnt give it any amount of comfort that the person would know about but it would ease their own concious, knowing they did something.</p><p></p><p>In my game I was playing a F/C of garagos, battle and slaughter. Shes CN, she wouldnt have anything to do with killing children or babies or whatever. Shed woulda left em to die.</p><p></p><p>Which if these are Nature devotees, I would expect them to do the same, If the kobolds are strong enough to survive the disease then so be it.</p><p></p><p>Im working on a Law of Armed Conflict project and if this situation was to come up today real world it'd be a crazy warcrime, I know modern day law and ethics dont have anything to do with the fantasy games we play just thought I'd add perspective to it.</p><p></p><p>Why did the discussion of building a giant catapult not come up? Shooting baby kobolds in to space would have been much more merciful than slitting their throats and way less hands on. Just think Diseased Baby Space Kobolds, just like those giant hamster things.</p><p></p><p>In the end this is a neutral act with hints of chaos and evil.</p><p></p><p>I have a hard time buying that a CG character would do this, at least not after lots of other ideas.</p><p></p><p>Like Take them to town and claim they are cursed human babies from another village transmogrified by the evil kobold witchdotor. What do those primitive monkey screwheads no about compounds and elements and stuff! No seriously. The village has been hit by a magical plague, how far off is a magical curse? One of the party could claim to have been turned into a kobold. They got better.</p><p></p><p>Or</p><p></p><p>Tried to do something good for them, like cool water, honey or sugar or something (art appreciation? lullabies? being shot out of a catapult?) so they would know something sweet or beautiful or joyous before their miserable little lives were cut short.</p><p></p><p>What about the Sleep spell? Did anyone suggest casting Sleep on them just so they would be assured they wouldnt feel anything before they got cut from the team of the living.</p><p></p><p>sorry my post is kinda silly</p><p></p><p>anyhow</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Krail Stromquism, post: 1079201, member: 2400"] [b]oh my morals ache[/b] I did something a lot like this in my last campaign, a redux of the Pools of Radiance original Gold Box computer game. I made the Slum area right next to New Phlan a kind of no mans land area. Whilst in that area the party ranger ran into a goblin in the midst of giving birth! Yoinks! He killed them both with out batting an eye. Favored enemy and all that. His alignment was CG. I pursued the morality of his actions just to get his veiw and try to develop his character a bit. He had a hard time with it, didnt want to think about it at all. He quit shortly after that. Anyway, I think the moral side of things is a fun and interesting portion of the game and can really bring a fresh edge to it. If this were to happen while I was DMing I'd try and do some kinda impromtu sanity check. I dont care if its good or evil, merciful or whatever. It'd be super cold blooded to do. If the party was standing around with the filthy little wretches rolling around on the ground calmy debating "nah lets just kill it. Its the easiest thing to do" and they walk over like robots and do it. Thats pretty hardcore. Its hard to look at pictures of dead babies let alone kill one. Who could kill a puppy with out flinching? Kobolds are kinda dogish right? Even if the puppy was near death who could just kill it? Let alone slit it throat! dang! Most people would just spend time petting it until they thought it was dead. This wouldnt give it any amount of comfort that the person would know about but it would ease their own concious, knowing they did something. In my game I was playing a F/C of garagos, battle and slaughter. Shes CN, she wouldnt have anything to do with killing children or babies or whatever. Shed woulda left em to die. Which if these are Nature devotees, I would expect them to do the same, If the kobolds are strong enough to survive the disease then so be it. Im working on a Law of Armed Conflict project and if this situation was to come up today real world it'd be a crazy warcrime, I know modern day law and ethics dont have anything to do with the fantasy games we play just thought I'd add perspective to it. Why did the discussion of building a giant catapult not come up? Shooting baby kobolds in to space would have been much more merciful than slitting their throats and way less hands on. Just think Diseased Baby Space Kobolds, just like those giant hamster things. In the end this is a neutral act with hints of chaos and evil. I have a hard time buying that a CG character would do this, at least not after lots of other ideas. Like Take them to town and claim they are cursed human babies from another village transmogrified by the evil kobold witchdotor. What do those primitive monkey screwheads no about compounds and elements and stuff! No seriously. The village has been hit by a magical plague, how far off is a magical curse? One of the party could claim to have been turned into a kobold. They got better. Or Tried to do something good for them, like cool water, honey or sugar or something (art appreciation? lullabies? being shot out of a catapult?) so they would know something sweet or beautiful or joyous before their miserable little lives were cut short. What about the Sleep spell? Did anyone suggest casting Sleep on them just so they would be assured they wouldnt feel anything before they got cut from the team of the living. sorry my post is kinda silly anyhow [/QUOTE]
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