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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 468630" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>I'm casting my support behind Tom Cashel. As a long time player of CN's, I agree that it really doesn't matter whether it was good or evil, or whether the guy you killed was good or evil, and it certainly doesn't matter that it was fair. </p><p></p><p>However, it does matter whether you had a choice in the matter. If you had a choice, that is to say, this guy wasn't going to be any further harm to you, then choosing to stab him in the back is a trend toward evil and if you'd just as soon do this all the time, play CE. </p><p></p><p>As a CG character, this goes double. A CG character should be pretty reluctant to stab someone in the back, and need a really good reason. You didn't seem very reluctant, and you didn't give a really good reason. Of course, as a CG vigillante type a good reason might be 'the evil b*stard deserved it'. But 'he was a member of an organization' IS NOT a good chaotic reason. Chaotics judge individuals not organizations. What did this guy do in particular to deserve getting stabbed in the back? Did you see it? Did you have an alternative to stabbing him? Did you even look for one?</p><p></p><p>Remember as a chaotic, everything is personal. Everything that is not personal is meaningless. (Keep in mind of course that noone short of a god is a perfect paragon of thier morality all the time.) Stabbing someone in the back depersonalizes the killing, which is fine if your CE and don't think of other people as persons anyway, but not so fine if you are CG.</p><p></p><p>As a CG person, you are trying to live up to certain standards. Typically, CG is described as someone who believes most strongly in what we'd today call universal human rights and freedom. Charming someone else is a fine point, but I suppose it makes a sort of chaotic brand of justice if he was a slaver.</p><p></p><p>I'm kinda of courious as to what your character sees as admirable in Tempus. In what aspect does he worship the war god? What virtues do you share?</p><p></p><p>Zerovoid: What makes you think it is ok to kill someone while they are helpless no matter how they are helpless? Once they are helpless haven't you generally won?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 468630, member: 4937"] I'm casting my support behind Tom Cashel. As a long time player of CN's, I agree that it really doesn't matter whether it was good or evil, or whether the guy you killed was good or evil, and it certainly doesn't matter that it was fair. However, it does matter whether you had a choice in the matter. If you had a choice, that is to say, this guy wasn't going to be any further harm to you, then choosing to stab him in the back is a trend toward evil and if you'd just as soon do this all the time, play CE. As a CG character, this goes double. A CG character should be pretty reluctant to stab someone in the back, and need a really good reason. You didn't seem very reluctant, and you didn't give a really good reason. Of course, as a CG vigillante type a good reason might be 'the evil b*stard deserved it'. But 'he was a member of an organization' IS NOT a good chaotic reason. Chaotics judge individuals not organizations. What did this guy do in particular to deserve getting stabbed in the back? Did you see it? Did you have an alternative to stabbing him? Did you even look for one? Remember as a chaotic, everything is personal. Everything that is not personal is meaningless. (Keep in mind of course that noone short of a god is a perfect paragon of thier morality all the time.) Stabbing someone in the back depersonalizes the killing, which is fine if your CE and don't think of other people as persons anyway, but not so fine if you are CG. As a CG person, you are trying to live up to certain standards. Typically, CG is described as someone who believes most strongly in what we'd today call universal human rights and freedom. Charming someone else is a fine point, but I suppose it makes a sort of chaotic brand of justice if he was a slaver. I'm kinda of courious as to what your character sees as admirable in Tempus. In what aspect does he worship the war god? What virtues do you share? Zerovoid: What makes you think it is ok to kill someone while they are helpless no matter how they are helpless? Once they are helpless haven't you generally won? [/QUOTE]
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