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<blockquote data-quote="DonTadow" data-source="post: 3034289" data-attributes="member: 22622">First I think that any DM who TPKS and throws his campaign into the gutter to teach a lesson should hang up his dice. I dothink this encounter is fair considering that hte PCs were dumb enough to go to this location without any preperation whatsover. To open up a map and sayhey lets go here is something I&quot;d only expect from the Knightsofthe Dinner Table(read the latest issue).Its more realistic if high level things exist in the game prior to the pcs getting to that level. Then again, this is not all of the PCS fault for the TPK. The blame goes on the DM as well. DMs need to do a better job I see of running their game. If you see the PCs heading foracliff do you let them go there to teach them a lesson, even if thats the end of what would have been a good campaign. The DM should have probably sent an encounter towards them on the way theere. Something thatshows them how dangerious things are up ahead. iF anything he should have left one or two alive, especially if their retreating.&nbsp; WHen they go to recover their dead and get healing the cleric tells them that they are too young to go there and that the first level ws the easist.That would probably set those PCs away from there for a while until their built up.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DonTadow, post: 3034289, member: 22622"] First I think that any DM who TPKS and throws his campaign into the gutter to teach a lesson should hang up his dice. I dothink this encounter is fair considering that hte PCs were dumb enough to go to this location without any preperation whatsover. To open up a map and sayhey lets go here is something I"d only expect from the Knightsofthe Dinner Table(read the latest issue). Its more realistic if high level things exist in the game prior to the pcs getting to that level. Then again, this is not all of the PCS fault for the TPK. The blame goes on the DM as well. DMs need to do a better job I see of running their game. If you see the PCs heading foracliff do you let them go there to teach them a lesson, even if thats the end of what would have been a good campaign. The DM should have probably sent an encounter towards them on the way theere. Something thatshows them how dangerious things are up ahead. iF anything he should have left one or two alive, especially if their retreating. WHen they go to recover their dead and get healing the cleric tells them that they are too young to go there and that the first level ws the easist.That would probably set those PCs away from there for a while until their built up. [/QUOTE]

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