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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jedi_Solo" data-source="post: 3020618" data-attributes="member: 40245">I voted "unfair" but for a reason that has been only lightly touched on - that we don't have the full story.The DC seems high (a monk failing on a 19?) but there may be something else we don't know (a low ability score, no boosting items, lower level than rest of party and missed by 1 or something).But why didn't the rogue find the trap?  Because the search roll was low and missed the DC or because the DM split hairs (the trap wasn't on the lever but was on the floor around the lever).Was the rest of the dungeon a save-or-die-fest?  Were there other secret doors and levers that were similar to this?  Was there a warning of some sort that they missed?There is too much information that we don't have that would likely make too many hesitant to say "fair" at this time.</blockquote>