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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 3038864" data-attributes="member: 18280">You were doing well until you hit #5.  After all, presumably, making the door mechanism or the trap hard to detect costs the same amount.  Moreover, if you take #5 to heart, why are you building underground anyway?  Way more expensive than building above-ground.  Actually, you were doing well until you hit #3, which should really read:  The designer of a dungeon would try to deploy these resources in the most effective way possible to achieve the goals that the dungeon was created for.But you still paid significantly more to create the dungeon in the first place.Sure to catch at least 55-56% of the mice.All of these things are likely to catch my less-intelligent servitors....and even me if I haven't had my morning coffee.Who says that wasn't trapped too?  Or does the location of the trap in the OP somehow preclude the existence of other traps in this dungeon?#7 does not logically follow from the previous points.  The conclusion is invalid.  Consequently, the monk is dead.Stupid people don't tend to have a lot of disposeable income:  Unsupported.  Do PCs have Wealth by Intelligence caps?  Do NPCs?  Do the treasure tables bear this out?Other people will kill them and take their stuff if they're dumb:  Unsupported.  Is CR based on Intelligence?Skill points are based on intelligence: True.  But, since my fighter just commissioned a magic sword that he doesn't have the skill to make, also irrelevant.Therefore, we may conclude that the trap/dungeon designer is of at least above average intelligence: Probably true, but there is nothing that logically links the designer's intelligence to this being or not being a trap.  In other words, there is no chain of logic saying that because of the previous statements, the lever must not be a trap.Faulty logic or faulty assumptions lead to faulty conclusions.  A lot of people have demonstrated why one might think this was a trap. No one yet has come up with a logical line of thinking that concludes "This must be safe." No.  But, then again, the question is irrelevant.  The trap isn't going to eat me when I open the door.  Nor is it unable to fit where it is placed.  Nor is it likely to destroy itself.RC</blockquote>

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