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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ThirdWizard" data-source="post: 3049219" data-attributes="member: 12037">In your oppinion.That's what you keep missing. That is your oppinion. That is not fact. That is not objective truth. That is a logical conclusion based on what you've come to learn playing the game of D&D. Someone else's logical conclusion could be completely different but that doesn't make it illogical or less objective than yours. You can't proclaim that you are correct and expect me to just accept that.I never said they weren't taking 20.By the RAW.It doesn't. But, then, you can't prove that that is a bad thing, can you?No.Then you can't use those certain traps.You are correct, not done. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />All you've done is submit reasons that this style of play wouldn't work for you. You haven't submitted any proof that this is a not objective. For example, expecting that the majority of D&D players have an above average intelligence shouldn't be done, so we have to conclude that the Search skill should be all that is necessary for the vast majority of D&D games out there. To say otherwise would be to penalize gamers of average intelligence. Thus, we can't assume any creative thought whatsoever.There is no "absense of B." B is always present. Always. Even if you don't know it is. You have a B that you are using to form what you believe is fair. Same for me. We can't remove ourselves from these contexts. If you had played in only my games your whole life, then do you not think that your oppinion on what is fair and what is not fair would be closer to mine?You seem to be claiming some kind of objectivity that is above other people's. Where do these credentials come from? What makes you the final arbiter in what is fair and what is not fair more than I? You are making the claim that you are a better judge of what is and is not fair than the majority of ENWorld itself!</blockquote>

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