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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 3049334" data-attributes="member: 18280">That is an example of the ever-shifting burden of proof.&nbsp; At one point, we actually agreed on a burden of proof.&nbsp; What made you change your mind?&nbsp; I submit that it was that, as the consequences of that burden of proof became apparent, they did not support your position.BTW, what you are doing above is also a combination of several logical fallacies, including the ubiquitous strawman and red herring techniques.&nbsp; Quote, please.No.&nbsp; You must establish the lowest common denominator if, and only if, the basis for &quot;fairness&quot; is in relationship to each individual.&nbsp; Which might be why you find the &quot;difficult&quot; trap of the OP unfair, while I find it fair.&nbsp; I am saying that the trap is fair if it falls within the set of &quot;Fair Playstyles&quot; while you are saying that it is fair only if it falls within the lowest common denominator of that set.&nbsp; That also explains &quot;They should be able to roll a 1 and find any trap.&quot;RC</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 3049334, member: 18280"] That is an example of the ever-shifting burden of proof. At one point, we actually agreed on a burden of proof. What made you change your mind? I submit that it was that, as the consequences of that burden of proof became apparent, they did not support your position. BTW, what you are doing above is also a combination of several logical fallacies, including the ubiquitous strawman and red herring techniques. Quote, please. No. You must establish the lowest common denominator if, and only if, the basis for "fairness" is in relationship to each individual. Which might be why you find the "difficult" trap of the OP unfair, while I find it fair. I am saying that the trap is fair if it falls within the set of "Fair Playstyles" while you are saying that it is fair only if it falls within the lowest common denominator of that set. That also explains "They should be able to roll a 1 and find any trap." RC [/QUOTE]

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