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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 3050838" data-attributes="member: 18280">No, but claiming that the most objective one can be in determining fairness is to examine a thing in light of one's one preferences is IMHO "throwing up our hands".  While we cannot ever be certain that we are being as objective, or as reasonable, as possible, we can certainly strive to be as objective and reasonable as we can.The claim that promoting a reasonably inclusive definition of fairness, that recognizes that there is a difference between intrinsic fairness and whether or not something is fair within a particular subset of context is equivilent to promoting "the most inclusive definition of fairness....even if that renders the definition pretty much useless to any DM that's not a psychopath" is also, IMHO "throwing up our hands" because it denies that we can ever rise above a contextual subset.I am certainly not alone in this thread in declaring that, while I might not use the trap, the trap is not unfair....in other words, despite my contextual subset the trap remains fair.  Contrast this with a response that declares the trap is fair only if it is fair within my contextual subset.These are not co-equal positions.RC</blockquote>