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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ThirdWizard" data-source="post: 3050999" data-attributes="member: 12037">Of course not. But, how about the reverse? If it requires creative thought, then it isn't objectively fair? If you dismiss this out of hand, then you are not being objective, and your own playstyle is interfering with your definition of fairness.I don't understand. Are you saying that in a group composed of 100 IQ people, it is fair to require them to have 120 IQs or die? That's fair?What, exactly, will your definition of fair be useful for, if it isn't useful for the majority of the D&D playing population? How can something be unfair for the majority of the D&D playing population but still be objectively fair? Are you going to have to add a note for your "objective" fairness standard that says that you have to have an IQ of at least 120 for it to apply to them?EDIT: Here's an example.Say Person A is designing the standards that will be used in the fairness of testing 2nd grade students. Person A believes adamantly that it is fair for there to be trick questions on tests. He believes that trick questions are some of the best way to make sure the person knows the material well. A collegue, Person B, thinks that trick questions are bad, and that 2nd graders probably don't have the capacity to understand the concepts of trick questions.Would it be prudent for Person A to:1) Decide that he is right, and that trick questions are fair. The ability of 2nd graders to answer trick questions isn't of consequence.2) Decide that he is right, and that trick questions are intrisinctly fair. 2nd graders should be abe to answer trick questions well enough for it to be fair, because trick questions are intrisinctly fair.3) Do studies on whether or not 2nd graders are capable of answering trick questions with enough ability for these questions to be deemed fair.Yeah... ENWorld message boards poll right above your post. I think over 300 responding individuals is going to trump the one person that you polled.That isn't quite right. Nothing is unfair without being used. In other words, without the context of its use, it is neither fair, nor unfair, it simply is. When it is used, then we can determine its fairness or unfairness.</blockquote>

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