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Message: <blockquote data-quote="epicbob" data-source="post: 5640949" data-attributes="member: 99102">So from what I can understand from all the replies, it's both the players AND the DM. Best case scenario, we make him understand that until we can catch up to his level of expertise, he needs to tone it down to where we can progress. Worst case scenario, we don't ever return.As for DMing myself...I actually did try that. Sadly, even if I did read up on the DM book and a few DMing articles, I still lack the hard experience and leadership to make it all flow together. On the bright side, I'm DMing for the same gang as the other DM and they're always (so far) willing to come back.When I gave the acronym ORKO, I meant "One Round KO". I wanted to use "One Hit KO (OHKO)" but those monsters were mostly of the multi-attack variety.To Kzach and pemerton, the city pass was not for a Drow society but for a DWARVEN city. Sorry if I was unclear. The Drows were a simple sidequest. Also, about the pass, that Drow fight was a rescue mission for the Dwarves. I think getting us a pass as a reward would have been reasonable. Because there sure as hell was no hint we needed one beforehand.Also, in the Dwarven jail, we were chained and bound with none of our gear (logical enough <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue    :P"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" />) and the dwarves would throw ice cold water on us every once in a while to keep us numbed. In spite of the lengthy sequence leading to the execution, there was nothing to really do. He even threw in a corrupted Dwarven official.To Oryan77, the stick was a simple quarterstaff and I was simply carrying it. For all i know, the priest called guards after our ass because he didn't like us, period.For the frost giants, we got to roll for Hiding but I was a fighter in that quest. Not a lot of hope right there.Where we almost drowned, there was a slippery stone arch we could try to cross. For a few minutes the players (including me) were discussing on how we could use a rope to prevent us from falling off. After shooting down pretty much every suggestion we made, he only let us throw the rope to whoever fell off. The current was also strong.For the Drow jail and the rusty bars, I had asked about them, he rolled and said they were rusty. Which leads me to believe he hadn't planned for this to happen.As for the locked doors requiring a high check in the last quest, I'm not complaining about having to provide effort. I was determined to open those doors. It's just that one leads to nothing WORTH keeping under lock and key (unlike the freakin' TREASURE HOARD we found). The other was just there to laugh at my Level 1 rogue lockpick skill.I don't mind doing what I have to do to survive (which included hanging off a 100 foot cliff to avoid detection). But even IF we're overthinking or not thinking enough, the DM is pretty discouraging. I WANT to like D&D but that DM is not helping.edit : To Aberzanzorax, I realise we lack his side of the story. Which is why i'm trying to provide detailed samples of the important events (this includes moments where it's the players' fault). I got mixed answers so I assume it's somewhat working.</blockquote>

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