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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 5647594" data-attributes="member: 9037">To be honest I am getting tired of DnD I am seeing so many issues especially at higher levels that really bother me.I prefer fantasy role play but my favorite system is 3E Shadowrun. Some of the things I love about it is that certain threats are always a threat no matter how much karma you get to improve your character. For example falling from a 100 foot building without having things to slow your fall will cause you to reach terminal velocity and you will go splat no matter if you are a newbie or an experienced runner.If you get surrounded by 20 Lonestar officers with weapons pointed at you. Not surrendering no matter what "level" you are is going to be suicide unless you get extremely lucky with your rolls to resist damage and they get extremely unlucky with their damage rolls. Which could also possibly happen as a newbie character. But the law of averages say it is not the smart thing to do.Yes I can see the role playing point in DnD that a character falls and survives a fall that would have killed a lower level character. You can role play it out that they landed in hay or mud or even say divine grace must have happened. What I don't like is the metagaming thinking a head of time of this is not dangerous because I  know I have X amount of hitpoints. In the last session one of the character now has wings but he has not learned to fly. He went up 60 feet over a stone courtyard and was willing to try them out because he couldn't be killed because of his hitpoints. That is metagaming at some of its worst type. Why would he have thought this in character? Especially since he had fallen a lot less farther at second level and almost died the fall knocked him to -9. All I am asking for is some role playing. Like being afraid of falling that distance and asking the party sorcerer to come help you by casting feather fall if things go bad. Or starting at something lower for your first flight.</blockquote>

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